Players from NBA history, that you never hear mentioned, not neccesarily players who played 2 minutes in their entire career but solid players never mentioned afterward, right of my head I can think of Adrian Dantley, havent heard his name mentioned at all in a long time.
Vinnie "The Microwave" Johnson kept the Pistons back to back championships moving. Tons of Energy. Crazy player.Also, Drazen Petrovic. Its a shame he could only play 4 years, but he's in the hall, so good for him.
I've heard Vinnie come up a lot, espically last season when Ben Gordon came out strong off the bench, the comparisons were pretty often. He's probably the greatest 6th man ever.
Sidney Moncrief-One of the games best defenders of all time. He was more of an explosive scorer than his 15 per night stats showed.The guy is Two-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year, Four-time All-NBA First Team, Five-time NBA All-Defensive Team, and a Five-time All-Star but yet hardley anybody knows who he is.Walt Frazier-A top 5 point guard of all time in my opinion. Because he was such a great scorer and playmaker people overlook the fact that he was a top notch defender as well. He led the Knicks too two well earned NBA titles. He owned Jerry west in the 1970 NBA finals.Maurice Stokes anyone? He was just a monster in the game, he could score,rebound,and dish out assists at will. Injuries cut his career short but before that he was a top 5 NBA player in his time. I remember Bobby Wanzer who was a three-time All-NBA guard say "If things had worked out differently, Maurice would have become one of the top 10 players of all time"Mark Aguirre-What an explosive scorer this man was. He was 25 ppg scorer until he got traded to the Pistons where he sacrificed his amazing scoring numbers to win a championship.Andrew Toney-Was overshadowed because he had Moses Malone and Julius Erving on his team, and for a little while Charles Barkely. In my opinion he is one of the most underrated clutch performers in NBA history.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Also, Drazen Petrovic. Its a shame he could only play 4 years, but he's in the hall, so good for him.</div> Petrovic after his 4th season was leaving the NBA to play in Greece anyway, when in Germany he was killed in a car accident. He has no right being in the HOF.Dave DeBusschere, what a great player. He was a defensive juggernaut and played like hell, one of the NBA's top 50 players. Of course, Oscar Robertson, the most underappreciated player ever.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Feb 24 2006, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Petrovic after his 4th season was leaving the NBA to play in Greece anyway, when in Germany he was killed in a car accident. He has no right being in the HOF.</div>hey bcb,it sounds as i read it as though you are suggesting that because he decided to leave to play in greece, petrovic shouldn't be in the hof. is that what you meant? if so, i have to disagree. as i understand it, the hof is to honor contributions to hoops period (not just the nba, not even just the usa). but maybe you meant that his performance and contributions didn't merit the hof...there i'd be more inclined to agree (though i could also see an argument that he was one of the first international players and that he kind of opened a door for what is arguably the most significant trend in the nba over the past 10 years or so: internationalization of the game).on other notes:moncrief is a great choice. as is sm. forward marques johnson from those same bucks ('77-'84) team: all star i think five times or so, close to league leading scorer. 20 ppg on 52 % shooting for his career (plus 7 or so boards and 4 or 5 assists).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>hey bcb,it sounds as i read it as though you are suggesting that because he decided to leave to play in greece, petrovic shouldn't be in the hof. is that what you meant? if so, i have to disagree. as i understand it, the hof is to honor contributions to hoops period (not just the nba, not even just the usa). but maybe you meant that his performance and contributions didn't merit the hof...there i'd be more inclined to agree (though i could also see an argument that he was one of the first international players and that he kind of opened a door for what is arguably the most significant trend in the nba over the past 10 years or so: internationalization of the game).</div> I didn't mean that since he was leaving the NBA that he shouldn't be in the HOF...I was replying to when a member said, 'it's a shame he only played 4 years'...death or not he was only playing for those 4 years anyway. I know he opened the door for international players but I don't usually care about stuff like that. Yes he opened the door but that door was going to be opened regardless it's just Drazen was the first to do so.
That obviously didn't matter much did it? If you can give Red Aurebach bad dreams I don't care if you can't dribble with one hand.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Feb 25 2006, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've heard Oscar couldn't drible with his offhand.</div>melo i don't know where you heard this but it's flat out slander: i watched (or listened to) nearly every game the guy played from 70 - 74 (admittedly: the tail end of his career so maybe he developed the skill at that time) and he could get it done just fine with either hand and did so many many times.
Reggie Miller-Hes the greatest clutch player and shooter of all time.This guy is never brought up because he dosent score as much as everyone else or dosent pull of crazy dunks,or anything crazy like the players today.Hes underated because he never one a championship.You gotta give the guy some credit for staying with one team for 18 years.The longest period of time in NBA history only below John stockton and Karl Malone.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Feb 25 2006, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Reggie Miller the greatest clutch player in NBA history?Thats a joke.</div>How is that a joke? Ask a few knicks fans just how clutch Reggie was, and this is coming from a bulls fan.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Feb 25 2006, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Reggie Miller the greatest clutch player in NBA history?Thats a joke.</div>How can that be a joke?Many NBA fans consider him the greatest clutch player of all time.I bet more think Reggies the greatest at the clutch so dont doubt it.I know your a MJ fan and im a Pacers fan and we have diffrent opnions but Reggie has hit more clutch shots dont jordan.Not more buzzer beaters but CLUTCH BASKETS.Reggie hasnt won a ring yet and MJs the better all around player but Reggies the better clutch player.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Feb 26 2006, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Over MJ? Yes that is a joke.</div>I understand Mjs like a basketball god to you but Lebron and Kobe can suparss him.
Actually no Reggie hasnt..I guess you missed all the games where Reggie was playing poor defense late in games and his man scored clutch baskets.Your a Miller fan boy. Yes Miller is a great clutch player but putting him over MJ makes me wonder where you have been.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Feb 26 2006, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Actually no Reggie hasnt..I guess you missed all the games where Reggie was playing poor defense late in games and his man scored clutch baskets.Your a Miller fan boy. Yes Miller is a great clutch player but putting him over MJ makes me wonder where you have been.</div>Im not putting him over MJ.I said in this thread that Reggies inferiror to MJ but Reggies a better clutch player plain and simple.Have you seen the game in 98 where Jordan played poor defense on Reggie and let him hit that game winner.Yeah Reggie has always outplayed Jordan but im still saying MJS better but hes not a better clutch player.Sorry Reggie has hit the most clucth baskets in NBA history and has the 2nd most buzzer beaters in NBA history.
1. Miller is not more clutch. How many defensive clutch plays has Miller made? Jordan made alot of those on the games biggest stage. Remember Jordan in the 1998 NBA Finals. Karl Malone one of the greatest power forward's of all time was stripped by Jordan with 20 seconds left on the clock Jordan then hits the game winning shot over Bryon Russell a premier defender to win a CHAMPIONSHIP. 2.Yes I saw it I saw Reggie push Jordan to break free. What games were you watching! That cant be true because everyone considers clutch something different. How did he hit the most clutch baskets if everyone has a different opinion of "clutch"Jordan has hit game winning shots to win CHAMPIONSHIPS. Reggie never did that ever. Jordan has made clutch defensive plays to win the title. Reggie never didthat ever.Jordan has made clutch passes to win titles.Reggie never did that ever.I even rank Kobe Bryant over Miller in clutch ability.
Jordan has done all that with the best supporting cast in NBA history.He was still hitting clutch shots before he got the best suporting cast in NBA history but it didnt lead him to a CHAMPIONSHIP.Remember in 1989 when Jordan hit the clucth shot on the Cavs.Did his team win the ring.NOPE!He did not have the best supporting cast he had in all his 6 championship runs.I bet if Reggie took Jordans place he would win 3-5 Championships.Jordan hit clutch baskets but his WHOLE ENTIRE TEAM LED HIM TO THE FINALS.Not just him,and his clutch baskets.Reggies the better clutch player ask any knick fan.Reggie ripped that team apart and always made a performance.This one is close but Reggie takes it.Jordans a better scorer(Even though he took more shot attempts),better defender and better then Reggie at almost everything but Reggies a better clucth player and a better shooter.
