I Can't Believe It! I Actually (In Fact, Wholeheartedly,) Agree With Canzano

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  1. The Sebastian Express

    The Sebastian Express Snarflepumpkin

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    It's okay. Everyone can think he tried really hard - that is why they found him using diet pills, afterall.
     
  2. STOMP

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    Nash did that not Paul Allen... if you mean that Allen did that because he hired Nash I agree with you, but there has never been any reason to believe that PA was particularly involved with that signing... well no real reason, only strong worded Canzano speculation (which I've learned not to accept as fact)

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  3. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    I'm thoroughly enjoying the fact that many in here, without the benefit of knowing what KP, PA, LM or TP know, or why they've done so, seem to think that at this juncture of the proceedings your

    It's like when talking heads get on CNN or Fox during a "crisis", and spout out opinions without the benefit of knowing what the cops know, or what the president knows, etc. And then at the end, if you ever get to see the info, you go "oh...maybe they were right".

    I haven't seen a lot of pub about the owners that applauded the Blazers' email. I've heard from Gilbert. I've heard about Billy Hunter. Where's the IKPIT bumper sticker now? Tim, KP told you in October that the team had their stuff in one sock, ready to go if/when this happened. But now you think they overreacted, got the league all mad at us (owners and League Proper), all b/c PTI and Canzano choose to misread stuff so that they can make it a bigger story?
    (Again, the email said: (and I'm paraphrasing) if you do this for the purpose of playing Miles legitimately, have a nice day and good luck to you. If you're doing it to eff with us (and we're looking at you, Wallace, and your attempt at blackmail), we're going Corleone on you.

    I find it humorous.
     
  4. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    LOL. Where in the email does it say "we want to ruin Darius' career"? In fact, I read it to say "if you want to play him legitimately, good luck to you. If you're trying to screw us by exploiting him, we're going to the mattresses".

    They're much closer to looking out for his interests than Wallace is.

    It's a shame he wasn't willing and able when, you know, he was under contract to play for the Blazers.

    I'm trying to see where jail could possibly come from in all this.

    "conspiracy'? "Strongarm"? By saying "don't cheat, or else we won't let it go quietly?"

    LOL. I think you're out of touch a bit on this one, Maris.
     
  5. TP3

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    ABM and others...please. This is in no way embarrassing. More embarrassing than your stars getting pulled over with weed?????? You're hilarious!!! This was news for one day - it has no lasting impact. Weed impacts fan support, sponsors, and therefore, the bottom line.

    This was a smart move to set up "potential" future legal action. Who's riled up in the NBA?! And if they were...how will it hurt the Blazers?

    If you think this is personal with Darius you are missing the whole point of the email.
     
  6. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    OK, but.....


    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=11191
     
  7. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I guess the next time a player is medically retired, the Blazers should sign him to a contract and play him minimal minutes (esp when there are better players out there). Because obviously that's okay dokie with a lot of the NBA.
     
  8. Masbee

    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    "Couldn't sleep".

    Are you fucking kidding me?

    What lameass exec is losing sleep over THAT e-mail?

    Either that exec is REALLY REALLY bad at what they do for a career if that type of an e-mail gets them so flustered they can't perform their duties.

    Or, they are doing something they shouldn't and are afraid - and pissed that they might get called to task for doing something "all the other boys do".

    Oh, of course, the "quote" has to be from Chris Wallace.

    Douche.

    As for the rest of the article - complete baseless conjecture.

    Here is my baseless conjecture:

    NBA execs and agents and owners will continue, as they always have, to look out for their interests, and when those interests overlap with the Blazers, business will be done.
     
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    The fact that Allen will have to dish out $9 million to be distributed evenly to every team because of Darius' 20 minutes of action this regular season (if it ends up being that much) is reason enough to sue the crap out the Grizzlies.
     
  10. Blaze01

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    BTW, has anyone ever heard an interview with Chris Wallace? The guy is a complete idiot....

    I am literally stunned that a guy like that could get an GM job in the NBA.....
     
  11. Masbee

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    As you would expect.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=11196
     
  12. Stevenson

    Stevenson Old School

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    Well, you are not "literally" stunned. If you were, you would not be able to walk. You are figuratively stunned.
     
  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yeah, what agent in his right mind would want his clients to play for the richest owner in sports, who is willing to overpay everyone on the roster for a chance to win a championship. Expecting agents to boycott the Blazers over this email is like expecting lonely, desparate guys to boycott internet porn.

    Agents will stear their clients where the money is - ALWAYS. And Paul Allen still has more money to throw their way than any other owner. Besides, it's not like Allen was trying to screw Miles out of the $18 million he's being paid to NOT play for the Blazers. He is actually TRYING preserve his cap space so he can spend even MORE money on an additional player or players. And agents will consider this a bad thing?

    EVERY single NBA player agent is salivating over teams clearing cap space for 2010. Why? Because there will be a TON of huge contracts handed out that summer, and there are more teams clearing cap space than superstars to go around. That means more money will be availble for overpaying second tier players, role players and guys with "upside" (like Miles once was).

    The same thing could be true in 2009 - if Miles' salary does not count towards the Blazers salary cap. Paul Allen desparately wants to throw his money around. He wants to be a significant bidder for any quality free agents available in 2009. Without him, there is a lot less money to throw around and one less bidder vying for the top free agents this summer. Remind me again, why would agents be opposed to Paul Allen having significant cap space? And, why on earth would they steer their clients elsewhere? If anything, they should be pissed at Chris Wallace for removing a significant, and very rich, player from the 2009 free agent bidding wars.

    Of course, you won't read about any potential boycott of the Grizzlies over this. Why? No top free agent will ever sign with Memphis - regardless. A boycott is completely unnecessary. They have the cheapest owner in sports and are about to become a farm team for the rest of the league. Anyone who thinks OJ Mayo is staying in Memphis his entire career is delusional. First chance he gets, he'll bolt for a bigger market and a richer owner. Michael Heisley is the new Donald Sterling and the Grizz are the new Clippers.

    BNM
     
  14. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    I think the reputation of an organization and how they treat their players does come into play when players are making decsions about where they want to play.

    I support the idea of organizations who trade their stars not to bottom dwelling teams but to contenders. That stuff gets around and their are certain organizations that are looked uopn as player friendly. I thought the Blazers were one of those organization . . . maybe they still are but this looks ugly.
     
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    Spot on point that deflates the concern that this is hurting Portland's image among players and agents. I'd add that PDX never has been a FA destination, but basically that factoid largely renders this a non-story so it's back to business as usual. Teams will still only do trades with Portland if they think they're bettering their interests. Agents will continue to steer their clients towards the most money possible. Star players probably still favor warm weather and the extra millions that playing in a major market brings. And same as ever, Canzano will be facing another deadline.

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