After giving it some thought, If I were the Blazers, I might make a bid such as Bayless, Webster, Frye, LaFrentz, Diogu for Deng, Hinrich, Gooden (I think we'd have to add your choice of Ruffin, Gray or Hunter to balance rosters, but ok) The logic there is it 1. Gives you three more veteran players with significant playoff experience 2. It cements your team and allows you to go forward and grow together. Deng and Hinrich will be upgrades at the 1 and 3. 1- Hinrich, Blake 2- Roy, Rudy 3- Deng, Outlaw 4- LMA, Gooden 5- Oden, Przy Pretty clear upgrades to make your team more suited to winning now. But at the same time, the guys you're getting aren't exactly old, so they'll continue to be part of the core going forward. As a Bulls fan, I want this team more or less blown up, so I'd consider a deal that moves long term salary off the books and allows for pretty much a complete rebuild. I don't think John Paxson would do this however. It also raises problems for us. Can Bayless coexist with Rose? Can he replace Gordon? What do we do with Gordon? Too many issues to deal with, and the Bulls haven't even gotten rid of Larry Hughes either.
i do this deal, as long as we can resign gooden to a decent contract. that makes us a championship team this year imo.
No, that's what I'm saying though. Roy is a primary scorer (like MJ) who can handle the ball, but he isn't the answer for long periods of time (like Pippen was). Don't forget, Pippen played point guard for the Blazers for a full season under Cheeks. I'm fully aware of what Pippen was capable of. Roy is not Pippen. Roy is a better all-around scorer than Pippen was imo, but Pippen was a much better passer and defender. If the Blazers had a Pippen they would be set. Play Bayless or Blake at the point, Roy at shooting guard, and the Pippen clone at small forward. If Rudy was three inches taller he could be the passer that Pippen was. He has the vision.
I do this deal in a heartbeat. It addresses every need we have. Point guard, small forward, AND backup power forward. Bayless would be a terrible fit for you though. He couldn't play with Rose. If I were the Bulls I would turn around and flip him for something that fits your needs better.
Wow, that is a great deal. I would not want Gooden at all, but Deng and Hinrich? I'll take it. Only bad thing (outside Gooden who i'm not a fan of) is their contracts... but oh well... I think our 10 man rotation would be... Hinrich | Blake Roy | Rudy Deng | Batum Aldridge | Outlaw Oden | Przybilla that is NICE!
we could no doubt swing gooden for a draft pick, and still have our #1, sergio, and koponen and freeland in the wings.
I actually said it yesterday, but I would like to get Hinrich and Gooden from the Bulls. Deng would be a huge bonus. Hinrich and Deng were two key pieces in the team that took the Bulls to the playoffs. If you put them on this team... That would be a VERY intriguing prospect. Hinrich Roy Deng Aldridge Oden Scary.
Perhaps Rudy instead of Bayless (based on comments in the other thread?) I'd make it provisional on actually getting something done with respect to trading Gordon.
It's interesting to read how even on the Blazers board Gordon gets widely diverging opinions (even amongst Blazer fans, not just Bulls fans). Some folks think he'd be a great fit with Roy, a further along Bayless. Some think he'd be dreadful. I'm tend to think he'd not be a great fit, but I started thinking about something. The Blazers could probably give him a try at very little cost. My personal feeling is the Bulls would give him up for not very much. My guess is they'd take Frye or Webster or Outlaw coupled with a complete spare part like Diogu or Rodriguez. That's probably a lower price than you could get Hinrich or any other player for. The upside for the Blazers would be considerable. Gordon is a quality player. You can give him a test drive for the remainder of the season. If you like him, you can use your cap space to re-sign him. If you don't like him, well, what have you given up? More likely than not, you're going to have to let Frye or Outlaw walk in order to have cap space to sign someone. So my thinking would be you've gotten an upgrade heading into the playoffs, and you've got a realistic option to sign the guy next year if you like what you see.
I don't think they do. I think that's part of taking the QO is you get to waive trades. but bird rights don't go with.
gordon is a better fit than blake because he has similar limitations on offense but more strengths (more scoring volume, goes to the line more)
No bird rights for Gordon. If he did have bird rights, a trade would be 50% chance of happening. With Gordon not getting bird rights on the team he gets traded to, no trade with Gordon will likely be made.
It is if you stay with the same team. If you're traded to another team then it's not. Which is why a player on a QO must consent to any trade. The CBA FAQ says a player can't be traded: Of course, my point in bringing all this up is that, since the Blazers are likely to be well below the cap, it doesn't much matter if he has Bird rights or not. They could still re-sign him.
