So, According To CF, Deng "May" Be The Target, Eh?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by ABM, Jan 13, 2009.

Moderators: 7
Page 1 of 3
  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    From: ESPN- Ford

     
    ABM, Jan 13, 2009
    #1
  2. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    70,367
    Likes Received:
    58,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    N.E.P.
    Very interesting.
     
    THE HCP, Jan 13, 2009
    #2
  3. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,684
    Likes Received:
    2,779
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    I'm still pretty high on Deng. Hopefully the Bulls give up on him too soon, right? :) It should be interesting to see what the Blazers do...

    Ed O.
     
    Ed O, Jan 13, 2009
    #3
  4. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    70,367
    Likes Received:
    58,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    N.E.P.
    I love his game. He would be a great fit on this squad.
     
    THE HCP, Jan 13, 2009
    #4
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    93,019
    Likes Received:
    55,773
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    MikeDC had that trade proposal of Hinrich, Gooden, and Deng for a package that included Bayless and a few others. I think I would do it. I think getting Hinrich and Deng would be a nice upgrade at our two weakest positions.
     
    Natebishop3, Jan 13, 2009
    #5
  6. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    70,367
    Likes Received:
    58,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    N.E.P.
    I can't stand Gooden or his game though!
     
    THE HCP, Jan 13, 2009
    #6
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    93,019
    Likes Received:
    55,773
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Meh, he's a good rebounder and he can score in the post or from the perimeter. I think he'd be a perfect backup for this team. He just needs to shave that beard.
     
    Natebishop3, Jan 13, 2009
    #7
  8. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,684
    Likes Received:
    2,779
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    The dude can score. You saw him overpower LA on the blocks last night, right? And hit jumpers over Oden?

    As a backup power forward, he could be pretty darn effective.

    Ed O.
     
    Ed O, Jan 13, 2009
    #8
  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    93,019
    Likes Received:
    55,773
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Exactly. I just wonder if he would mind coming off the bench.
     
    Natebishop3, Jan 13, 2009
    #9
  10. BalancedMan

    BalancedMan That's out of context....

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    1,318
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Atlanta GA / Harrisburg PA
    Deng is okay but he doesn't have range and isn't the defender that Gerald Wallace is. Maybe it's a pipedream to get a better SF, but look at how much a guy like Richard Jefferson was let go for. We can get a good SF. It's the most talent rich position in the league right now.
     
    BalancedMan, Jan 13, 2009
    #10
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    93,019
    Likes Received:
    55,773
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Yeah, but he could be had cheaply. That's the thing. Wallace would probably cost more.
     
    Natebishop3, Jan 13, 2009
    #11
  12. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Due to Deng's regression the past couple of seasons, Gerald Wallace is of more interest to me. But if Wallace is not a possibility, for whatever reason, and Deng is, I'd be very interested in Deng. I think his projection is significantly worse considering last season and this one but if Portland could acquire him at a pretty reduced cost, I'd love to take a flyer on him. He has a good defensive reputation, he's still young and he has shown very good scoring skills in the past.

    Deng interests me a few hundred times more than Conley Jr. But only if the trade cost is right. I'm not sure I'd still give up Bayless for him. Prior to this season (and definitely prior to last) I would have, and more. But for, say, LaFrentz and Outlaw, I would do it.
     
    Minstrel, Jan 13, 2009
    #12
  13. SodaPopinski

    SodaPopinski Tigers love pepper

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    1,856
    Likes Received:
    50
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Someone remind me of the last time Chad Ford broke a trade or signing.

    ...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    Exactly.

    As for Luol Deng - someone tell me why I should get remotely excited about the possibility of him on the team? Pretty pedestrian career stats. Horrible three-point shooter. Doesn't improve our perimeter defense.

    I'd much rather have a guy like Shane Battier - who doesn't get nearly the same hype as Deng - but who can be a lockdown defender on the perimeter, hustles like crazy, and can be that guy in the corner who spreads the floor and can hit the three.

    Not to mention he comes with a cheaper price tag than Deng and fewer years (Battier becomes a free agent in 2011 and Deng is on the books until 2014).

    Anything Chad Ford heard about Deng came from the Chicago side - I can almost guarantee you of that. Deng makes absolutely no sense here. None.

    -Pop
     
    SodaPopinski, Jan 13, 2009
    #13
  14. drexlersdad

    drexlersdad SABAS

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    4,825
    Likes Received:
    255
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    NEW New Hampshire
    this would be great, not sure if chicago goes for it, but it saves them gobs of money, lets them rebuild right away, and gives them a prospect in bayless.

    i think they consider it as a means to shed nocioni and hinrich, eh?

    hinrich/sergio
    roy/rudy
    deng/martell/batum
    lma/outlaw/nocioni
    oden/pryz

    we would be over the cap for a decade, but those contracts would turn into expirings eventually as well.
     
    drexlersdad, Jan 13, 2009
    #14
  15. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    70,367
    Likes Received:
    58,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    N.E.P.
    He just so happen to have a good half against us. I've also watched about 8 or 9 Bulls games where he was out on the court just LOST! Don't like him!
     
    THE HCP, Jan 13, 2009
    #15
  16. crowTrobot

    crowTrobot die comcast

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,597
    Likes Received:
    208
    Trophy Points:
    63
    "and I know they love Luol Deng"


    sounds like he's just talking about old news. everyone knows we asked about
    deng last year

    i think if we still wanted deng now we'd have him already. the bulls presumably
    regret giving him 70 million to get owned by outlaw.
     
    crowTrobot, Jan 13, 2009
    #16
  17. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,684
    Likes Received:
    2,779
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Have Frye or Ike had a stretch like that this entire year?

    I'm not saying that we trade in order to get Gooden, but if he comes here, he'd be a clear upgrade at the backup power forward.

    Ed O.
     
    Ed O, Jan 13, 2009
    #17
  18. hasoos

    hasoos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    9,418
    Likes Received:
    97
    Trophy Points:
    48
    There are quite a few Bulls players that would probably be much better with a change of scenery. They have too many players playing the same positions. Nobody is happy. There is almost a "dark cloud" over the team.

    I am concerned about Deng's decline though. A couple of years ago he was tearing it up, now he often looks like he doesn't even want to be out there.
     
    hasoos, Jan 13, 2009
    #18
  19. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    93,019
    Likes Received:
    55,773
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    It would really depend on what we had to give up Has. As long as the price wasn't too high, adding Hinrich and Deng would be really nice upgrades over what we currently have at those positions.
     
    Natebishop3, Jan 13, 2009
    #19
  20. crowTrobot

    crowTrobot die comcast

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,597
    Likes Received:
    208
    Trophy Points:
    63


    i don't think trading for deng without giving up anything huge would be a problem right now if we wanted to do it.

    the trouble is deng is apparently declining and is locked in to a near max deal for 5 1/2 more years. trading for him and hoping he improves with a change of scenery would be a massive, possibly even championship risking gamble. it's not even a given that he's an upgrade over outlaw at this point.
     
    crowTrobot, Jan 13, 2009
    #20
Page 1 of 3

Share This Page