Who should the Raptors trade?

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Who should we move?

  1. Jermaine O'Neal

    66.7%
  2. Jason Kapono

    26.7%
  3. Anthony Parker

    26.7%
  4. Jamario Moon

    33.3%
  5. Will Solomon

    13.3%
  6. Kris Humphries

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Jake Voskuhl

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Will Solomon

    6.7%
  9. Joey Graham

    6.7%
  10. One, 2, 3 or all 4 "Untouchables"

    26.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. takman_777

    takman_777 Raptors Blogger and Geek

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    There has been so much speculation and so many rumours, but imagine you are Bryan Collangelo and you were to tell us who you would actually be looking to deal to improve your team for whatever reason you can think of. This poll is designed to let all of us see who we think this team should be moving and who we should be keeping. As I see it, Chris Bosh, Andrea Bargnani and Jose Calderon are untouchable and Roko has played well enough to be something worth holding on too or to dangle as that extra little bait. Please remember trades are seldom straight up so make sure to include all of the pieces to any deal you might consider. Thanks and I hope this is a lot of fun.
     
  2. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    O'Neal, if the right deal comes along.

    Moon, because he is a free agent and won't be worth what we or someone else re-signs him for.
     
  3. takman_777

    takman_777 Raptors Blogger and Geek

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    after putting up with his lazy ass for 3 years, we had better get something for moon!!! geessh!!

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    just like his career here, close but no dunk!!
     
  4. Kaz

    Kaz Member

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    your a hater, seriously man! I have him on my fantasy team and since few games before the birth of his child he has been playing really good. Check the stats your self, the only player that raps dont need right now is JO.
    JO for Marion and banks, I hate to let AP go because he plays consistent (sure had a few up and down games but you know what you get from him night in and night out.
     
  5. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    Why do you guys want Banks? There is a reason this guy has been on four teams. He's got no feel for the game at all. Plus he can't stay active.
     
  6. takman_777

    takman_777 Raptors Blogger and Geek

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    nah, i am not a hater, i just think he has so much more to offer. the past few games he has played well, but he can't stop anyone consistently and the quickness he has to leave his man looking for a swat, while exciting when it happens, has cost us dearly as guys like Paul Pierce and wing players everywhere light him up nightly. If he played some shut down D, he would quickly be taken off my trade list as I like aspects of his game... consistancy has and will be his biggest issue...

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    less of this!! [​IMG]

    i am not difficult to persuade, just see too much potential there to be satisfied with a few good games..
     
  7. BigVolcano

    BigVolcano Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    i think if bigkallday's marion trade materializes then i think we should look to move moon (like takman said he's not a good defender and far too inconsistent) or kapono (he's either on or off, either way he's terrible on defense) for a decent back up two guard cause i think joey (he is inconsistent too i know but i think he'll be better than moon given the chance) will be sufficient as a backup to marion however we dont have a good shooting guard of the bench
     
  8. takman_777

    takman_777 Raptors Blogger and Geek

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    i am pretty sure with Jose and Roko that Will would be way more comfortable at the 2 spot!! just a thought.

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  9. shankyoass

    shankyoass Ceci n'est pas une pipe.

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    I am a little confused by your question. Do you mean which ONE player should be traded, or which of the FOLLOWING should be traded?

    If it's the former, the piece I think Toronto should look to move as soon as possible is Jermaine. His trade value as of right now is still acceptable, but if Toronto decides to hold on to him more, then there may be a problem. JO was having a respectable season prior to missing this many games, and after his return, there is no guarantee that he will play at the same level (especially with Bargnani's stellar play recently). If Toronto does not move him soon, I can only see Jermaine's value go down, until the trade deadline next season (teams will want his large expiring contract for the '10 FA class).

    If it's the latter, then Jermaine, Parker, Moon and Solomon should be moved. Jermaine for the previously stated reasons, and Moon and Solomon because they suck. Parker should be traded because he is old.

    Moon has the physical tools to be a Marion-lite, but seems unable to realize his potential. He tries for the homerun plays (like a block or a steal), instead of the smart plays (like playing good defense). His man often beats him off the dribble, and he tries to go for a block. When it works, everyone praises him, but that is not defense. I'd much rather have him make the attacker take a difficult, contested jumpshot by guarding him and not letting him blow by.

    Solomon is a turnover machine who's only upside is that he can hit a jumpshot. He also seems somewhat trigger happy to take the three. Reminds me of Mike James in a way. With the emergence of Roko and the return of Jose, he shouldn't even be on the team. I'd much rather take on a veteran like Lindsay Hunter who plays defense and can mentor the youngin's.

    Parker can no longer play the same tough defense he used to, and has become quite inconsistent offensively. Some games he scores 20, yet others he scores 2. I would only miss his late-game heroics, but the price we have to pay (his mediocrity) for that is too great. Also, like Jermaine, his value will only go downwards now as his production drops and age rises.

    As for Kapono, I find he is a integral part of our bench. He keeps the defense honest, even when he isn't hitting his shots, as they are scared that he will catch fire. His shooting is needed if we give up Parker, as the other wings the Raptors have are not good shooters. I'll live with his horrid defense, assuming Jermaine can be traded for a SF who defends well who the Raptors can put on the opposing team's superior wing player.
     
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  10. takman_777

    takman_777 Raptors Blogger and Geek

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    great post, well thought out and i like the views on each of the guys... they all have value, but not all on the same team! great pieces to add, but not to build with.
     
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    i agree with everything you said shankyoass except Kapono (evident from my previous post), IMO he just does more harm than good
     
  12. Kaz

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    fuck kapono trade him he costs raps the game tonight idiot doesnt know basic basketball!!!
     
  13. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    Most of my trade wishlist has to do with contracts. In order, I'd like to trade:

    Jermaine O'Neal
    Jamario Moon
    Jason Kapono
    Anthony Parker

    I think the reasons for dealing JO are obvious. Bargnani's more deserving of that starting spot and this team won't achieve any sort of success by investing that much money for a backup big man. While I'd like to trade him, I've mentioned in other threads that we shouldn't accept any deal that forces us to take on substantial salary past 2010. If you can get something that expires before or at that time, go for it. Otherwise we're better suited to just let his contract run off on its own.

    I'd deal Jamario for pretty much anyone at this point. I've been frustrated with him ever since the end of last season. I don't see what he brings to your team even in a limited capacity. He can play good defense, but it comes so inconsistently that there's no way you can depend on it for a whole season. He's far too passive and he's a complete offensive liability that makes it harder for everyone else on the court to find an open jumpshot. Dealing him now will get rid of the temptation to give him a contract he hasn't earned (I think BC's smarter than that, but you never know).

    Kapono's contract is really the only thing that bugs me. I think he's a decent role player on any team (not a starter), but there's no reason for him to be paid that much for that long (don't know what BC was thinking). If we could unload him on a contending team in need of 3 pt. shooting and get rid of the financial burden going forward, I'd be all forward. If not, someone has to get in his head that he's a spot-up shooter and that's it.

    I'd trade Parker mainly for that whole expiring contract thing (like Jamario), but also because he's probably the most appealing of all our tradeable assets. He's got a great reputation around the league that I think has covered up the fact that he's lost a step and has not been shooting all that consistently lately.
     
  14. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    btw, I love how Will Solomon's on that poll twice. I think we all hate him that much.
     
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    Trade Bosh
     
  16. BasX

    BasX I Win

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    gtfo troll [/how blazers would deal with this]

    above posts[/how intelligent fans will respond to this]
     
  17. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    Intelligent fans really wouldn't respond to it. It's too stupid to even bother consider.
     
  18. BasX

    BasX I Win

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    true.
     
  19. Master Shake

    Master Shake young phoenix

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    Trade Bosh...interesting...

     

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