I Say Bring Theo Ratliff Back....

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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    ....to become Greg's personal instructor. He needs one........in the worst way.
     
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    Well, he has Lucas as well as Joel. Why would Theo be a better mentor?
     
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    Please don't. Theo is one of the biggest slackers in the NBA. Great if he wanted to play but milked every injury...real or imagined.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So, bring in a guy to teach Greg how to milk injuries, con fanbases and teams into giving him a huge (undeserved) contract and then play like shit?

    Yah, brilliant idea.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Mo Lucas >> Theo Ratliff.
     
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    Personally, I don't think Theo milked injuries. The point is, he inherently knows the practical applications of defensive positioning and strategy. I think he'd be a great teacher.

    With all due respect to Mo, I'm not sure he's doing what it takes in this regard.

    OTOH, not to get all caught-up in if Theo is legit, or not.......even if it weren't Ratliff, I'd love to se someone become Oden's full-time mentor. The Blazers have too much invested in him.
     
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Theo was a cancer in the locker room.
     
  8. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    See above, Nate.
     
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    nah......how about double d, d squared
     
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    I'd be interested to see Walton teach him for a bit.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    There's teaching and then there's application; anybody brought in to school Oden can only do so much. Greg needs floor time and experience and he has to take his lumps. Like most young guys he'll get to take all of those experiences with him into the off-season and work specifically on shoring up weaknesses.

    Plus, it's extremely difficult to put in extensive one-on-one practice with guys when the team is playing every other day.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Pretty much. We know they've been working with him on how to avoid fouls, but he still has trouble getting out of position or putting his hands up. It just takes time.
     
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    That's not what I've heard about Pete Newell's camps, for example.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Right. what you are describing is extensive off-season instruction. What Greg is getting during the season is a couple of practices a week and a lot of games. There is no way to get lots of one-on-one attention and the intensive repetition that a big man camp (like Pete Newell used to run) offers while he's playing in the regular season and it's no secret that Greg didn't really have the summer to work on his game since he was mostly focused on just getting back into reasonable condition.
     
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    When did I ever say this should happen during the season? I'm simply saying that he needs one-on-one attention. I'm also saying that it can effectively be "taught" (hence, the Newell example).

    I think Greg needs encouragment, as well.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Well, you had said you aren't sure Mo is getting the job done, and since he was sick for all of training camp I can only assume you meant he wasn't getting the job done since he returned to the team in November. :dunno:

    But, yes I agree that he can make great strides over the coming off-season if he puts the work in with somebody one-on-one, but that probably won't be Mo any way unless Greg sticks around in PDX during the off-season.
     
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    I guess our convo did get a little convoluted. Sorry about that.

    But, yes, I'm thinking he needs someone for today "and" for the future. Heck, I don't care if this person travels with him - and keeps him company - this season. Probably good, actually. Oh, wait, he turns 21 this month! Nevermind. ;)
     
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    Greg hasn't played as well as he did when I was on his team. I'm way better than Mike Conley. The Blazers should sign me. I'll turn his season around!
     
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    That's a TERIBLE idea!!

    That's one of the worst assertions in the history of the NBA and humanity as a whole.

    And Robert Horry is one of the Greaters Post Season Players of All Time


    Thanks,

    Bill Walton
     
  20. alex42083

    alex42083 Thanks Brandon

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    haha. I don't need to see Greg learning to take half the shot clock to throw up 50 pump fakes to eventually get blocked from behind.

    How about Buck? I bet he could show Greg how to man up in the paint, and play with some fire, and teach him a few tricks of the trade. Buck was a masterful defensive player.
     

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