Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's I was watching ESPN last night(Like I do every night lol) and thought something Stephen A said was very right so I thought I'd post on here to see what you Miami Heat fan's thought about his coments.Stephen A Smith was asked on ESPN yesterday if he thought the Miami Heat are a better team this season then they were last year and he said no and I completely agreed with the reasons of his anwer. He said that the reason he think's Miami was better last year was because the team had more experence and Chemesty. Last year the Miami heat had verterian guard Eddie Jones who played very well in the playoffs last year if I must add as well as Damon Jones. These guys were a better team then because they had been playing together there for a while there for they knew each other pretty well. Everything pretty much just clicked perfectly and when Shaq was brought in he was the final piece of the puzzle. With Shaq on the team not only did Miami's scoring go up but there Defense improved as well and I believe if they would have kept this team the way it was they would have had a much better record then they do right now. Don't get me wrong the Miami Heat are a very good team and the additions of A Walk, Posey, Gary Payton and J Williams weren't bad but at the same time it wasn't good either because imo it just wasn't needed. Anybody agree?
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's 100% agree,Damon hit some clutch shots last year,they should've kept him.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's Damon Jones and Eddie Jones are not meant for big time games like the game 7 of the ECF. DJ shot an air-pass, late in that game. EJ is been known not to show up in the big game. Plus, DJ's defense was horrendous all season long.Adding guys like Walker and J-will will solve that. They are not afraid of taking a big shot. And Payton gives the Heat PG defense that DJ never had.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's Last year Miami had all the pieces of the puzzle. They had Shaquille O' Neal and Dwayne Wade taking care of the scoring and control of the ball. This meant that Damon Jones, and Eddie Jones would be freed up for wide open shots. These guys were great shooters, not necessarily scorers. There is a difference: Damon and Eddie were primarily spot up shooters, whereas this year Antoine Walker and Jason Williams are more scorers, hitting shots in the flow of the game. Last year, you had Udonis Haslem and Alonzo off the bench, those hustle players, and ever more shooters coming off the bench. You had guys to play with and in benift if Shaq and Wade, not guys to try and score along with Shaq and Wade
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dagameplayer @ Feb 27 2006, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was watching ESPN last night(Like I do every night lol) and thought something Steven A said was very right so I thought I'd post on here to see what you Miami Heat fan's thought about his coments.Steven A Smith was asked on ESPN yesterday if he thought the Miami Heat are a better team this season then they were last year and he said no and I completely agreed with the reasons of his anwer. He said that the reason he think's Miami was better last year was because the team had more experence and Chemesty. Last year the Miami heat had verterian guard Eddie Jones who played very well in the playoffs last year if I must add as well as Damon Jones. These guys were a better team then because they had been playing together there for a while there for they knew each other pretty well. Everything pretty much just clicked perfectly and when Shaq was brought in he was the final piece of the puzzle. With Shaq on the team not only did Miami's scoring go up but there Defense improved as well and I believe if they would have kept this team the way it was they would have had a much better record then they do right now. Don't get me wrong the Miami Heat are a very good team and the additions of A Walk, Posey, Gary Payton and J Williams weren't bad but at the same time it wasn't good either because imo it just wasn't needed. Anybody agree?</div>What are you talking about?? Only Wade and Eddie played a year together. DJ and Shaq was new. So, hmm, the team was together for how long? A year? Anddddd, this year during the playoffs this team will have been together for a year....soooo basically, you have no point.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's Stephen A. Smith doesn't come up with good points. Everyone knows losing Ed Jones hurts and signing overrated James Posey and Williams has been a mess.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's They didn't sign either. They got both via trade, only Walker was a sign and trade deal.Thing is, Miami Heat's record ain't that bad, and Shaq missed quite a bit at the start. Only problem is their beating .500 or below teams. 0-7 against Mavs, Spurs, Suns, Pistons. But other then that, their even I think.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's Heat beat the Pistons.And yeah, the record is actually good. Last years team was so much better right? They only had 4 more wins at this point then the current Heat. And based on our schedule and how bad last years team played at the end of the season we can definitly end up with the same record. Plus, Shaq was only out like 9 games all of last season, and already it's double that.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Feb 28 2006, 12:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Stephen A. Smith doesn't come up with good points. Everyone knows losing Ed Jones hurts and signing overrated James Posey and Williams has been a mess.</div>Actually thats the smartest thing he's ever said. I heard him say one time neither JJ Reddick or Adam Morrison is the best player in College basketball. (Probably because they were white)
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's They were much better last season, they definately should have kept Eddie Jones if anyone, he was their key player, he held the team together with his great defense, amazing scoring, and leadership. Adding Payton was a good move, but adding Posey and Walker ruined the scoring chemistry.idealy they should have kept a lineup like this if they wanted to improve upon last seasons roster.PG-Gary Payton/Damon JonesSG-Dwayne Wade/Wesly PersonSF-Eddie JonesPF-Udonis HaslemC-Shaq/ZoThat's only showing Key Players.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's People are overrating Damon Jones. The guy is terrible, and has a ego to boot. He had one good season with the Heat, thanks to Shaq/Wade.Also, Eddie Jones and James Posey are almost identical players, with Jones having the more experience and leadership qualities. Posey the age.Walker kills any team. And why did you list Wesley Person as a key player?
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's I totally agree with you. They are lacking their team chemistry. That is why you see the Pistons, Spurs, and Mavs all doing really good. They have great team chemistry and play together really well. If the Heat get their team chemistry down soon, then they will be a great team. They have the talent to do it, just not yet.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Feb 28 2006, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They were much better last season, they definately should have kept Eddie Jones if anyone, he was their key player, he held the team together with his great defense, amazing scoring, and leadership. Adding Payton was a good move, but adding Posey and Walker ruined the scoring chemistry.idealy they should have kept a lineup like this if they wanted to improve upon last seasons roster.PG-Gary Payton/Damon JonesSG-Dwayne Wade/Wesly PersonSF-Eddie JonesPF-Udonis HaslemC-Shaq/ZoThat's only showing Key Players.</div>Not a Heat fan I see? Person and the Heat did NOT get along. He wasn't let go in the offseason, he was let go in the beginning of last season. Maybe you mean Shandon Anderson?
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's Eddie Jones>James Posey and Damon Jones>Jason Williams. There is no doubt Miami was a better team last year. Shaq was better last year as well and Wade is about the same.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Feb 28 2006, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eddie Jones>James Posey and Damon Jones>Jason Williams. There is no doubt Miami was a better team last year. Shaq was better last year as well and Wade is about the same.</div>I can easily tell that you only have seen the poor games that the Heat played on national tv.Posey is 10x the shooter Eddie Jones is.Jason Williams can play better defense and create on offense, something that Damon cannot.Shaq is better this year than last year, simply for the fact that hes finally healthy.Wade has taken a monster step this year, as he proved that he can take a huge burden of an offense.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's Wade took the huge burden of the offense last year as well. The Heat are a poor defensive team this year. Maybe the talent is the same but the IQ and personalities of the team don't mesh well. The heat keep losing to the best teams. Last year teams feared the Heat but it is different now. Walker is got to be the worst scorer ever. I do not like his game. He makes a lot of bad decisions. He's not very athletic either but he is willing to jack up a lot of 3's and usually misses. Damon Jones maybe was limited but what he does best is what Miami needs. A big time 3 point shooter. Eddie Jones brought defense, energy, and 3 point shooting. Maybe Posey does some of this but not as well. Posey in particular is not as good defensively as hyped up to be.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Damon Jones>Jason Williams</div>That some bad joke? You lose some respectibility from me on that one.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's Did you watch Miami last year? When teams doubled Wade and Shaq who was nailing 3's? Damon Jones was the perfect fit for Miami. I couldn't say the same about Jason Williams. He takes a lot of 3's but makes them at a low percentage. Maybe that is one part of the game but it is the part Miami needs most. Jason Williams is also a very poor defender and fails to make Wade and Shaq better. Sorry if you disagree. Why was Miami better last year you think?
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's If your saying he's greater because he's a better fit, then ok. But to say he's better as a player, that's nonsense. You even said it yourself, Damon Jones benefitted from Wade/Shaq. But even so, he's not that great of a 3pt shooter, look at his stats, one good year with the Heat, his other years and this year have been terrible or average. So he's not any better then Jwill at the 3. Jwill brings more to the table as a player and pg then Damon. Also, have you seen Damon Jones play d, I'll take Jwill's over his. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Jason Williams is also a very poor defender and fails to make Wade and Shaq better.</div> And Damon Jones did? And that would explain why Wade is having one of his best seasons of his career so far. Maybe having a actual pg helps then a guy who just stands by the three line and waits.
Re: Stephen A Smith Brought Up Some Good Point's Damon Jones made Wade and Shaq better by spreading the floor. Teams were afraid to double off him and it opened up space for Wade and Shaq to attack the basket. Damon Jones with Miami vs. Jason Williams with Miami. Damon Jones shot 43.2% from 3PT and Jason Williams is shooting 37.6% from 3PT. Also I've seen teams leave Jason Williams open on purpose to clog the middle and help out on Wade. I guess Damon Jones with Cleveland exploited his weaknesses as in creating off the dribble. He didn't have to do that with Miami and usually Miami is better off with Wade having the ball anyway.
