Canzano weighs in on the point guard position

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  1. handiman

    handiman Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure I agree with your recollection of history... Houston was a very similarly assembled team, with a bunch of 3-pt shooters spread out around Hakeem. How it played out is a matter of individual talent and teammwork, not necessarily differences in style of play.
     
  2. Masbee

    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    Hakeem was a much better defender than Shaq. Series.
     
  3. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Pooh Jeter, anyone?
     
  4. roydezlaw

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    Yeah I remember and I still dislike Nick Anderson. I used to root for Shaq before he went to LA. This years Orlando team is one I watch as much as possible. Last year I enjoyed watching Turkoglu and this year Jameer Nelson is playing great and usually the best point guard on the floor.
     
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    Yes they had 3 point shooters. But Houston was inside out. Orlando was outside in. That is why they lost. It's not necessarily about who was playing what position, but how they played. Clyde Drexler dominated Hardaway, and he didn't do it from the outside. Hakeem dominated Shaq, and he didn't do it from the outside. The shots Houston took from the outside were shots within the flow of their offense. The shots Orlando took were because certain players on the perimeter were mistakenly under the impression they were more important to the team than Shaq.

    The facts are missed 3 pointers lead to long rebounds and transition points for the opposition.

    The facts are that 3 pointers are a much lower percentage shot than going inside.

    The facts are that your bigs are usually out of position to rebound when early 3's are taken.

    The facts are that by shooting 3's you never get your opponents bigs into foul trouble, because they never have to make the effort to stop pentration.

    So believe as you will. I firmly believe being an outside in team is bad, and I believe Portland has been way too much of an outside in team when they could easily be the other way around.
     
  6. Pinwheel1

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    I found that quote from Canzano a bit odd: "The question all along with Bayless centers on his desire to improve"

    Really? Has that been the question all along? I was always under the impression that his work ethic and desire to get better was a given. The only question I ever have about Bayless is can he run a team when Roy is not out there? I have never questioned his desire. Pg vs SG is a question. Shooting is a question. Work ethic? Never.

    I know Canzano talks like he knows his shit......but like most columnists they are hired because they can "write", not because they are ever "right".
     
  7. bigbailes

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    bingo, thats the real question and i don't think jbay has answered that yet.

    personally i think this is the biggest vote for sergio ever, i mean if crapzano is backing bayless/blake that means great thinks for serg right?
     
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    I agree with all of it.
     
  9. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Well you know what they say about a stopped clock being right twice a day.

    Frankly I think Canzano's premise and observations are shaky, but I do think the overall conclusion that Bayless is the long term answer is probably close. I got the distinct impression on courtside last night (from Confucius-Rice) that the entire coaching staff is pretty high on the kid, and the way Barret and Wheels agreed with him I'm not sure there is a lot of debate.

    However I don't think it's so much about Bayless vs. Sergio as I think it's more about Blake vs. Sergio -- and depending on how the next couple of weeks to a month go for Chacho with extended minutes we may get our answer. Frankly I'm hoping both Sergio and Bayless have a really good run, because It sure would be nice to have that extra cap room this summer to sign a really high quality FA small forward and backup power forward versus having to carry Blake's (albeit reasonable) 4 million dollar deal.
     
  10. GrandpaBlaze

    GrandpaBlaze Predictions Game Master

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    Blake doesn't pass the ball as well as Sergio but is a much better scorer. I've always pictured Blake as the perfect backup PG - not overly flashy, solid fundamentals, not going to kill you with mistakes and will occasionally be a game changer.

    I also agree with others that Sergio would thrive in a more run-and-gun environment as he seems to have a more opportunist view on passing and sees those opportunities better than many.

    Thus, I stand in the Sergio or Bayless camp with Blake being the additional PG.

    Gramps...
     
  11. The_Lillard_King

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    What bothers me is the way Canzano came to his conclusion. The way I read it, he thinks about Bayless and Sergio and decides on Bayless based on 10 minutes of working out after practice . . . apparently because this shows Bayless' commitment to the game or something like that???

    So what if Canzano missed that 10 minutes and instead saw Sergio working all off season, would he then lean towrds Sergio? Is he really basing his decision of who is the better point guard based on who works harder?

    Are we talking practice . . .after practice?


    I like Bayless and what he brings to the team, but, IMO, Sergio is the better PG. I may be wrong, but at least I didn't make my decision over watching Bayless shoot for 10 minutes.
     
  12. MARIS61

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    I agree, this has always been the plan, but Blake has possibly played well enough to complicate the decision.

    If a guard is traded this season it ill be Blake for sure, as there's no way KP is ready to give up on Sergio OR Bayless.

    My guess is no guards are traded this year.
     
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    I agree with the obvious pairings, but Bayless/Roy is destined to be a rocky, mistake-filled ride for awhile and Roy is at about 70% right now so a smart coach looking for wins might not agree with you which duo gets the starting spot.

    Sergio/Rudy would probably be the safer way to go, and much better for Greg and LaMarcus.
     
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    BTW, Canzano is white noise.

    Nothing more.
     
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    After reading the "article", I want my 2 minutes back.

    On Monday against Milwaukee, Bayless had seven points and one assist in 14 minutes. He also slapped hands and bumped chests with annoyed Bucks' guard Luke Ridnour. Bayless was called for four fouls, and on some possessions seemed more interested in besting Ridnour one-on-one than with running the offense.

    His only factual point stated directly rebuts the view of his article. What a moron, as we already knew.

    He gives no reason, none at all, for even playing Bayless let alone promoting him.

    One thing is clear, he understands nothing at all about either player, KP, or baking a team.
     

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