What is the first team of the NBA say within 5 years?I'd sayPG-Chris PaulSG-Kobe Bryant(maybe Rudy Gay)SF-Lebron JamesPF-Amare StoudemireC-Emeka Okafer(if he ever fully plays C, i'd think by then sean may would be fulltime PF)
Where's Dwight Howard. Put him over Okafor. Also take Kobe off the list, bc you said future. He's already in his prime. How about Dwyane Wade in his spot. Then i like that list.PG- Chris PaulSG- Dwyane WadeSF- LeBron JamesPF- Amare StoudemireC- Dwight Howard
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Feb 28 2006, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Where's Dwight Howard. Put him over Okafor. Also take Kobe off the list, bc you said future. He's already in his prime. How about Dwyane Wade in his spot. Then i like that list.PG- Chris PaulSG- Dwyane WadeSF- LeBron JamesPF- Amare StoudemireC- Dwight Howard</div>I was saying realistically how it would look, not just the best players of todays young talent. And as far as Dwight goes, he isnt any better offensively then Emeka, and he sure as hell isnt better defensively, all he can do is rebound. If that's all you want in a 1st teamer why dont you have Zach Randolph? Anyway I dont think Dwight will be a pure C anyway, with Darko being their starter by then, considering things dont change too much, and for the Bobcats Sean may starting at PF, moving Emeka to C, since he's already been playing it very well this season dispite injuries.
How far in the future? Let's say, two years from now, 07-08?G - Dwayne WadeG - Kobe BryantF - LeBron JamesF - Carmelo AnthonyC - Tim Duncan
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Feb 28 2006, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How far in the future? Let's say, two years from now, 07-08?G - Dwayne WadeG - Kobe BryantF - LeBron JamesF - Carmelo AnthonyC - Tim Duncan</div>No way in hell will Carmelo ever make a 1st team with all the great PFs in the NBA, and I doubt even though Duncan plays C, he'll be listed as one unless he converts full-time. It'd probably be Andrew Bogut (if he doesnt convert to PF) or Emeka if he converts fulltime to C, this season I consider him a C but I doubt the NBA lists him as one, it all depends.
So in two years, if Tim Duncan is not a center, then Andrew Bogut and Emeka Okafor will be the Alll NBA First team Center over Dwight Howard? :/
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Feb 28 2006, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So in two years, if Tim Duncan is not a center, then Andrew Bogut and Emeka Okafor will be the Alll NBA First team Center over Dwight Howard? :/</div>Emeka is already better then Dwight right now, so within two years i wouldnt expect that to change. All Dwight can do is get offensive boards. And as far as Bogut goes, he's very good, statistically he will probably be better then Dwight within 2 years. I'd expect stats to look like this for the 3 of them.Emeka Okafer20/12/3 BPGDwight Howard 18/18/1 BPGBogut 22/10/5 APGEmeka is a lot like Tim Duncan, not as good and never will be but he impacts the game better then his stats show, but anyway of those 3, he's the only I expect to become a true C. Dwight and Bogut will likely develop into PF's.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Feb 28 2006, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Emeka is already better then Dwight right now, so within two years i wouldnt expect that to change. All Dwight can do is get offensive boards. And as far as Bogut goes, he's very good, statistically he will probably be better then Dwight within 2 years. I'd expect stats to look like this for the 3 of them.Emeka Okafer20/12/3 BPGDwight Howard 18/18/1 BPGBogut 22/10/5 APGEmeka is a lot like Tim Duncan, not as good and never will be but he impacts the game better then his stats show, his numbers have been down due to injuries though.</div> Do you honestly think Dwight Howard will average 18 rebounds? Come on now. Dwight is already averaging 15.6ppg and you think that a 20 year old Howard can't figure out how to average more than 3 more ppg? Dwight Howard is not better than Emeka Okafor. Okafor 13/10/1 41% FG - 16% effciency rating Howard 15.6ppg/12.5rpg/1 51% FG 21% effciency rating
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Feb 28 2006, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do you honestly think Dwight Howard will average 18 rebounds? Come on now. Dwight is already averaging 15.6ppg and you think that a 20 year old Howard can't figure out how to average more than 3 more ppg? Dwight Howard is not better than Emeka Okafor. Okafor 13/10/1 41% FG - 16% effciency rating Howard 15.6ppg/12.5rpg/1 51% FG 21% effciency rating</div>Again Okafer has been injured a huge portion of the season, so his scoring numbers will be down.And yes I think Dwight will average between 15-18 RPG. The Guys a beast rebounder at 20, and will only improve and grow taller and more athletic.
C-Amare StoudamireF-Lebron JamesF-Dwight HowardG-Chris PaulG-Dwyane WadeCarmelo will also get in there some of the years.
Dwight averages 16 PPG on 10.7 shot attempts per game, and pulls down 12 rebounds. In two years, once he starts putting up 20 shots a game, you're looking at 22+ points and quite possibly 14 + rebounds per night. Granted, his teammates right now can't rebound worth <Censored>, which helps his stats, but Emaka doesn't have rebounding forces either. Emeka is good, but in two years I don't see him at 22/14 a night
Emeka's upside is nowhere near that of Dwight's (and the injuries aren't exactly helping that).I don't see how anyone can say that Emeka is better than Dwight with a straight face.Dwight is putting up better stats than Emeka, he is more athletic than Emeka, he has improved (since their rookie seasons) more than Emeka has improved.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ilovebball @ Feb 28 2006, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>C: Yao MingF: Dwight HowardF: Amare StoudemireG: LeBron JamesG: Kobe Bryant</div>Yao needs to bulk up a lot to get that spot.And he needs to stop being a sissy and dominate.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Feb 28 2006, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Emeka is already better then Dwight right now, so within two years i wouldnt expect that to change. All Dwight can do is get offensive boards. And as far as Bogut goes, he's very good, statistically he will probably be better then Dwight within 2 years. I'd expect stats to look like this for the 3 of them.Emeka Okafer20/12/3 BPGDwight Howard 18/18/1 BPGBogut 22/10/5 APGEmeka is a lot like Tim Duncan, not as good and never will be but he impacts the game better then his stats show, but anyway of those 3, he's the only I expect to become a true C. Dwight and Bogut will likely develop into PF's.</div>There is so many things wrong with that post. Emeka's game is already developed. He spent four years in college to do that. Dwight is still only 20. Did you notice that Emeka has actually declined this year. He's injury prone, and he doesn't have an edge on Dwight anyways. Dwight is bigger, stronger, so he can guard big men better. rebounding is about half of defense, and he's already the best in the game at that.Howard will never average 18 rebounds. That's just ridiculous. And he'd average less blocks than he does now? no.I don't see Bogut doing that well either. maybe 16/8/4.
I didn't understand that Bogut prediction. Bogut is a hustler, he hustles, gets rebounds, and garbage points. I'm as big a fan of his as anyone, but there's no way he goes over 15/10. Even that is a stretch
Some good predicitons so far...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Feb 28 2006, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I didn't understand that Bogut prediction. Bogut is a hustler, he hustles, gets rebounds, and garbage points. I'm as big a fan of his as anyone, but there's no way he goes over 15/10. Even that is a stretch</div>Yeah I think someone like Channing Frye has a better chance to be on an all-nba 1st team because the amount he gets to play this season and his great numbers he's already had. If he continues his work then the sky is the limit for him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dsounG @ Feb 28 2006, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yao needs to bulk up a lot to get that spot.And he needs to stop being a sissy and dominate.</div>You need to stop making stupid comments and check the factsHe is by far the best center in the game this year:-Only center to be averaging 20 PPG+ and doing it on over 50%-Been pretty reliable as a 20/10 guy (and he's still 25)-Damn good on the defensive end- a shotblocking (career average of 2, 1.5 bpg this year)/shotlatering force under the bucket, has a defensive +/- of -5.7 (and yes his backup is one of the greatest defensive players of all time) Bulk up? He's like 330 now- he has been bulking up ever since he got in the league.Ever since the injury- he has been playing out of his damn mind:14 GP, 32.9 MPG, 21.2 PPG (51% FG), 11.1 RPG, 1.4 APG (to 1.6 TOPG) 1.7 BPG, 2.86 PFAND over the span of the past 4:36.25 MPG, 26.8 PPG (55% FG), 16.3 RPG, 1.8 APG (to 1.8 TOPG), 1.5 BPG, 2.2 PFRockets have gone 10-4 over that span (with 3-1 over the past 4) as Yao tries to almsot single-handedly (due to some understandable personal problems with TMac) bring the Rockets back into the playoffs (only 3.5 games out now)I don't see how anyone can seriously take players like Okafor, Bogut, or Frye over Yao
