Grizzlies sign F Miles to second 10-day contract

Yes, I have mentioned this repeatedly, but instead I get stupid posts about brains or heads expanding as a response by one of our moderators.

At this point, it seems to be fans of other teams or Ed O. who are ridiculing those who even bring this up as a possiblility.

Which does make me wonder about Ed O. as a Blazer fan. I rarely find anything positive he writes about the team, and he seems to attack posters either with vulgar language or with a mocking tone who take the Blazer side of an issue.

 

some of the language in the medical retirement provision is very new, I remember checking Larry Coon's CBA FAQ numerous times a few months back and there was never any mention of "pre-season, regular season or post-season" games ... I'm guessing this was recently added to clarify the rule.

 

Yeah, that wasn't in there a week or so ago. He did have the part about "proving the doctors wrong" in there though. Archive.org is so far behind in websites right now, so it's hard to check up on these things.

 

So Coon is revising it as he goes, just as the league is doing in the Miles case.

 

That was a recent update to Coon's site based on his understanding of the Miles' case, not what the NBA thinks.

 

Yet I was mocked by the same Bull poster and one of our mods for posting Coon's earlier interpretation of the case.

 

There were several weeks left before the trade deadline. Gasol wasn't costing them any extra money that year (the net of Gasol vs. the players they took on last season), and time was on their side. There were statements from several GMs who questioned the timing of the deal and also were a bit miffed they were short-circuited from making any kind of offer themselves.

 

It was exactly the type of deal that the CBA is supposed to question according to the link the Bull fan provided to me. Instead, Stern didn't blink an eye because one of his precious large market teams got much better, and one of his small market teams inched toward bankruptcy.

 

Two first round draft picks, a young prospect (Marc Gasol) and cap relief seems like fair compensation for Gasol. Not sure why the NBA would question that.

Much better than the Andres Nocioni, Tyrus Thomas, and Joakim Noah trade that was on the table. (Although Thomas/Noah have played better as of late, but I'd rather have Gasol).

 

Circumventing the cap through a lopsided deal to disrupt competitive balance. Cut and dry according to the CBA.

 

You're comparing apples to oranges.

You posted the portion about the NBA being able to deny trades to circumvent the CBA, citing Coon's fact. I posted the actual text, noting that it is much broader than just trades, and does include claiming a player off waivers.

What constitutes a medical retirement and what puts the money back on the cap is completely different from that.

 

The curse lives on. The Grizzlies lost to the Bobcats by 15 tonight. That's seven in a row.

I guess Darius really is part of the Grizzlies re-building plan. Having him on the roster seems destined to insure a high lottery pick (although, not higher than 4th, thanks to the curse).

BNM

 

But it's not lopsided.

Pau Gasol - 17.7 PPG 9.3 RPG 0.9 BPG

Marc Gasol - 11.3 PPG 7.3 RPG 1.1 BPG
Darrell Arthur - 5.2 PPG 4.1 RPG 0.7 BPG
Javaris Crittenton - 2.7 PPG 0.9 RPG
Combined - 19.2 PPG 12.4 RPG 1.8 BPG

And this is ignoring the fact that Marc Gasol and Darrell Arthur are both young, and should logically get better with more years in the league...and also the 2010 draft pick, and whatever Memphis gets as a result of the capspace they received from the trade this summer or next.

It would make the NBA a joke to have denied that trade.

 

Darrell Arthur wasn't even in the NBA last year.

 

But the Grizzlies got the pick from the Lakers which they used on Donte Greene, who they traded for Darrell Arthur on draft night.

 

LOL

Memphis was a 49-win team two and a half years ago and then started the fire sale. Stern let them do it. The Lakers went from just another team without Pau Gasol to the best team in the West.

That was a pretty easy deal to question, plus, Darrell Arthur was originally a Blazer draft pick, so I'm not sure what he had to do with the Laker trade.

 

You mean two picks in the late 20s, a 2nd round pick (Gasol), one of the great busts of all time and Javaris Crittendon? I'd take the Bulls offer and bank that Ty Thomas and Noah in an uptempo system would be beasts.

 

Btw, this is the first time I've seen someone say that that trade wasn't lopsided. That was a gift from the Memphis Grizzlies.

I will however keep in mind that this is the same person that said Derrick Rose is a superstar, and that it'd take Roy+LA/Oden for the Blazers to get Rose, as if the Blazers would ever even consider that trade.

 

I remember when we traded a bunch of players for Scottie Pippen. Their sum vastly exceeded what Pip brought. However, Houston went into the tank and we went to the Western Conference Finals a couple of times.

 

Interesting take. The problem is, you can't compare the production of one player to three. For one thing the minutes aren't equal. Pau puts up his numbers in 35.5 MPG, the other three need 55.7 MPG to put up their combined stats.

And, by the logic of your argument, this would be a good trade:

Kobe Bryant - 27.0 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 5.1 APG

Travis Outlaw - 11.7 PPG, 4.0 RPG, 1.0 APG
Steve Blake - 11.6 PPG, 2.3 RPG, 4.7 APG
Channing Frye - 4.1 PPG, 2.1 RPG, 0.5 APG
Combined - 27.4 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 6.2 APG

Think the Lakers would do that trade? After all, Blake, Outlaw and Frye are all younger than Bryant. Hell, we'll even throw in our 2010 draft pick.

BNM