Kobe gets 36 ppg because all he does is shoot. Not pass. Shoot. In his 81 point game. What he had like 2 assists man! Come on! Anyone could get 36 ppg if they shot almost about every shot. Try to get the players around you involved. That's why people like Smush Parker and Lamar Odom don't get recognized as much. It's all KOBE KOBE KOBE!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nemesis @ Mar 9 2006, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe gets 36 ppg because all he does is shoot. Not pass. Shoot. In his 81 point game. What he had like 2 assists man! Come on! Anyone could get 36 ppg if they shot almost about every shot. Try to get the players around you involved. That's why people like Smush Parker and Lamar Odom don't get recognized as much. It's all KOBE KOBE KOBE!</div>This is a perfect example of an ignorant fan.
How is it the truth?Obviously his team wasn't getting the job done because they were down 15 points. If I were Kobe I would have done the same thing. His shots were falling and he brought his team back from being down 15 points. You cant argue with that. If your making a huge comeback you do whatever is working for you.
I was talking about getting 36 ppg. Scoring 81 points, is insane, and its obvious he wanted to win the game. But he never gives anyone else a chance..2 assists? I could do that..Basketball is a team game, and most nights he doesnt do that..Im fine with 81 points, he wanted to win the game..but alot of nights Lakers dont win, he needs to pass up the tough shot and pass the ball.
Really, his supporting cast is a little underrated. No one gives them any credit, but they do have some talented players. Lamar Odom (IMO has potential to be top 20 talent), Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, Brian Cook, Devean George, Kwame Brown (good defender). Kobe just has no trust in his teammates. He really wants to win, and his players have screwed up in the past, so he feels like he is the only one who can get the job done. Lately, he actually has been moving the ball better (exception: vs. NOK).
Smush parker wouldn't even be a starter on a normal team. Same for Brian Cook or Kwame brown. The only person who has talent worth stating is odom and latley he's been using it correctly. He's the reason why we were in the game after 3 quarters of brick city by kobe.This team is underrated to an extent but their inconsistency baffles me. I know thats' a sign by a young team but Lamar's 26 and for most of the season has been inconsistent. If he could play like he has been then we would be a 6th seed without a doubt and kobe wouldn've had to put 81.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I was talking about getting 36 ppg. Scoring 81 points, is insane, and its obvious he wanted to win the game. But he never gives anyone else a chance..2 assists? I could do that..Basketball is a team game, and most nights he doesnt do that..Im fine with 81 points, he wanted to win the game..but alot of nights Lakers dont win, he needs to pass up the tough shot and pass the ball.</div>Who else is he going to pass it to? Parker is inconistant. Odom is the same way. Alot of people speculate that Kobe takes away from Odoms game but in reality the triangle takes away from Odoms game.Would the Lakers be better off if Kobe toned down his shooting? Probably not.
In the 81 game Kobe should've had 5 assiits. However Smush blew two open shots and so did Odom. That doesn't mean he passes or anything but just a stat for everyone
Lakers are severely underrated. They are inconsistent because Kobe scores 40PPG for 3 straight games, then decides to have a 20 point, 10 assist game. Some games he decides to take 35 shots and ignore teammates, other games he shoots 20 shots and decides to ge tthem involved. It's no wonder why they are inconsistent.Odom is a scoring threat that sets up offense (mainly Kobe), Parker is a good player that can give you solid games, Mihm is a good inside presence, Cook is decent as well, and Kwame is a decent rebounder.
LOL, nitro you need to stop hating.The 2 games Kobe missed there are the statsCook 19 [he dropped 27 with kobe playing]Odom 18Smush 8Mihm 12Walton 10As you should know Odom is at at fault if he scores less. When he wants to be agressive [lately] he can score even with kobe playing. Smush is inconsistent with or without kobe. Mihm plays well with kobe, he's just in foul trouble. Devean george also plays well with kobe.So how is kobe at fault? Why did Smush drop 8 without kobe? Why didn't Odom go for 25+ plus without kobe? What is that kobe's fault too? Kobe's glaring eyes made him not score 25+. I look foward to you're response.edit: Mihm isn't inconsistent. He's probably the only consistent player on out team. Kwame has no offensive skills whatever, and his D is fine sometimes. Cook let Rasheed drop 6 3's on him, he has no D what so ever.Watch a laker game before you comment.
What's with everyone putting words into my mouth today?I said the inconsistensy is Kobe's fault. Him going for 40 and shooting 30 shots one night and then going for 20 and 10 assists with only 15 attempts has the role players scoring a ton one game, then being ignored the next game. That leaves odom being main playmaker and setting everything up one game, then being a 25 point scorer the next. Kobe is main reason Lakers are where they are, I'm just saying that his teammates are so inconsistent mainly because of Kobe and his spuratic play. As for your other player descriptions that you seemed to snap back at me making it seem like I am contradiciting what they really are is pretty sad of you. I said Cook is a good rebounder and decent player. never said he was a great defender. I said Mihm is a good inside presence, and you make it seem like I'm calling him inconsistent. PS- Of course those players are gonna up there stats when Kobe is out, they have to make up for those 36 points lost.
Odom can be the play maker and can still score 20+. Are you trying to tell me he can't? Absolutely ridicolous.Secondly you only post positives and forget about the negatives. For every point Cook scores he gives 2 on the other side. Therefore his scoring doesn't matter. Chris mihm is great, his the only guy on LA who seems to try day in, day out.You can blame other players inconsistency on kobe [even that is pushing it] but Odom's mentality is what is stopping him. Not kobe.
I am not saying he can't, I am saying if he did it would mean Kobe wouldn't take those 28-30FGA's per game. Every player in the world, especially role players, have negatives. But nontheless, pretty much all the players on the lakers are average. odom is definately above average, Mihm is a solid center, and the role players like Smush are solid. If you don't think Kobe has stunted Odom's growth you are crazy. Again, Odom has never been the 2nd option before moving to LA, so that was a huge change. This is his first year with triangle and being main playmaker and looking to do other things than score. Lastly, playing with Kobe is like playing monopoly. You get something different from him every night, and by different I mean for 3 nights he's the scorer, than for 2 nights he is racking up 10 assists. Odom has never had the chance to be consistent. And he can score those points, he just chooses that time to go to Kobe. The trust and balance will come as they mature as a duo, but this year Odom has done ana amazing job as playmaker and has had some huge spurts of scoring.
Why does he chose to go to kobe? Is that kobe's fault? Does he not have a mind of his own? I'm sure Kobe would odom to score and them to win then him scoring 35+. He said it himself.Anyways latley Kobe's dropping 40 and Odom's playing like he should, that just shows it's his mentalit that is stopping him from growing.edit: Hey, i wouldn't say amazing. There are some games that odom scored 9. And they happened frequently. Hopefully those days are over.Kobe has trust issues because all last season he trusted his teamates and they failed him. When kobe has a player of his caliebur of the team he would trust them. However seeing as how there's not much who are better than him it's going to hurt him. However i can't blame him, when luke walton passes the ball back to you when he could win the game then i'd be pissed.
He is the playamker! That is his JOB! The scoring thing will come. This is really their first year playing together with the triangle, so it takes time. I never said Kobe scoring 40 stunts his gorwth. I am saying his spurratic play, where one game he is jacking up 35FGA's, and then the next only 15. One game he is designated scorer and everyone is going to him, next he is only creating for others. That really shuffles around everyone and puts role players in different positions each week, which is hard. You don't need 20 points to be amazing. He is the closest PF to a triple double for the season, and is the main reason on the court why Kobe gets those points. He lifts a huge load off Kobe's shoulders in terms of playmaker (Kobe was last year, and had his worst season of career).I;d say Kobe failed his teammates last year. He had players like Odom, Caron Butler, Chucky Atkins, etc.. last year, which was a pretty talented team. Kobe did terrible last year as playmaker (27PPG on career low FG %, over 4 TO's per game) and again, inconsistensy hurt the team. He has trust issues because he is still elarning how to be a true leader and not play 2nd fiddle.
HAHAHAHAHAHA :HAHAHA: DID YOU JUST SAY IT'S KOBE'S FAULT WE FAILED HIS TEAMATES LAST SEASON?You're true colours come out. You look at a bunch of stats and then say kobe failed his teamates. Hey did you forget before rudy resigned we were the 6th seed? Hey did you forget that Kobe and Odom missed a combined 34 games? Hey did you forget that kobe was suffering from plantar facisitc and when it recovered he shot better? Did you forget that Hamblen once assigned to coach tried to implement the triangle which as you know is complex? Nah but it's kobe who failed his teamates. He failed them and all those things are minisculeDon't laugh when i call you a hater because you are one. Plain and simple. I can't believe you actually said that. That's like saying Tmac was at fault for going 21-61, Kobe after the allstar break was 27-6-5 on 46% shooting. Kobe was asked to rest and don't play the last few games because the season was done but kobe refused. What did Tmac do? See i could take cheapshots at you're favourite players but i won't. You can continue to keep on spweing crap out of you're mouth.
Why did you bring T-Mac into this. He was DEFINATELY at fault for the 21 win season. Not because he sat out at end of season 9same goes for Kobe) but because his play just wasn't good enough, and his teammates sucked balls. Last year Lakers had Odom, Mihm, Atkins, Butler, etc... Kobe had his worst statistical season. Yes, they were once a 6th seed, and that was when Memphis, Denver, and Houston weren't even above .500 yet. They wouldn't have made playoffs either way. Kobe failed last year. He couldn't work with his teammates last year, and couldn't be playmaker. I don't blame the guy, it was his first season not playing triangle in like 6 years, and first time playing with a totally new bunch. But even when he wasn't injured, the Lakers play was ugly. Before Rudy resigned, they were just a .500 team. before Hamblen came in, they were just a .500 team. This year he has a much less talented bunch, but he has risen to challenge and has played the best season of his career. Notice how much different that is to last season?PS- Call me a hater, I don't give a sh*t. Bottom line is he had his worst season last year, coincidentally during his first year without Shaq. And he isn't second fiddle anymore, he had a talented group and they were only a .500 team when healthy. He should take responsibility for his team, and he probably knows that. That's why this year he is ripping up the league with a much less talented squad that WILL go to playoffs.
How the hell do you blame tmac for 21-61? Are you sure you're a tmac fan? That team was a joke, besides tmac it looked like a CBA team. He did everything possible on his part but his teamates didn't. If he had help they would've won more games.Secondly you can only assume we would collapse even if Rudy was there. But the facts still stand, kobe was playing horribly preallstar because he was injured. Once he recovered his stat upped itself but injuries takes it toll. Are you going to blame Yao now if they miss the playoffs with tmac gone? The answer is no.I don't see how you can say you're teams star is at fault when they did eveything possible but there teamates didn't elevelate. What so lebron is at fault for the cavs collapsing last season ?
