Small, cheap and palm-sized HD camcorders?

I've been contemplating buying a small, memory-stick based (or internal HD) camcorder. Something very small...

I was thinking a Flip Mino HD

http://www.amazon.com/Flip-Video-Mi...OFI2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1232567902&sr=8-1

or a Sony "Webbie"

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MHSCM1-D...=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=photo&qid=1232567920&sr=1-3

thoughts on either of these? Leaning more towards the webbie, just wish they had better colours for them.

The pros for the flip is that its tiny, i can probabably take to sporting events and shit without hassles.

the pros for the sony is that it probably takes better pictures, there's zoom and removable memory.

thoughts?

both around $200

 

speak of the devil

http://www.woot.com/

 

I think I'd rather spend the extra 80 bucks on the sony.....

 

no prob, just throwing it out there

 

http://www.amazon.com/POLAROID-DVC-...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1232578548&sr=8-1

it is more expensive though...$240

 

yeah, i posted the same question on another forum and they linked up that woot.com

 

woot is usually the cheapest you will find for whatever product they are selling

 

http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/kit-eaton/technomix/sonys-webbie-pocket-camcorders-nearly-do-full-hd

[video=youtube;5hiWjKX8yhY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hiWjKX8yhY[/video]

 

review of the flip mino:

[video=youtube;I1ufqiMAkv8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1ufqiMAkv8[/video]

HD test of the Sony:

[video=youtube;wfK8V4aFfCI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfK8V4aFfCI[/video]

 

[video=youtube;TLGtgMlZ62o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLGtgMlZ62o[/video]

Webbie came in today..here's a quick test I shot at lunch...not the greatest...make sure to go to youtube and watch in HD

 

Nice- exactly what I've been looking to purchase for some video footage up on the Mountain when snowboarding.

Thanks for the linkage and review stuff as well as the little tester there.

 

its pretty small and cheap...takes 5MP pics but not the best....will need to do more testing though.

 

[video=youtube;D3EmhnPSesk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3EmhnPSesk[/video]

 

Watch out Steven Spielberg!!

 

Joe Francis!

 

got a Flip Mino HD. I like the portabiliity...more practical.
[video=youtube;oIFfGD6639M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIFfGD6639M[/video]

 

go to the site and click HD though.

 

little bumpy....will play around with it more.

 

I have a flipHD and it's awesome.

 

how do you use it? do you save your vids on computer or upload to youtube and let them store em'?