Would you be pleased with a Deng/Hinrich for RLEC, Outlaw, Sergio trade?

Quick has hinted at a trade that sounds suspiciously like this:
LaFrentz contract + Outlaw + Sergio for Deng and Hinrich

Let's say it actually is (even though that's probably unlikely) would you be in favor of it?

 

Yes. I would.

 

I'm torn - I like Deng and I like Hinrich's defense, and both of them have been playing pretty well since they came back from injury. BUT: we'd be getting rid of Rudy's best friend and Roy's best friend (and sort of the team mascot, whom everybody likes) for two rather quiet types. Who have big contracts. And are neither of them ever likely to be all-stars. So I say no.

 

Risky.

Hinrich is a good defender, but hasn't brought much else in terms of scoring etc. Deng has potential, but why the big fall off. Is he capped? His numbers aren't really much different than Travis's.

If they were so go they why is Chicago so bad? Only time would tell.

I certainly like Deng more than Hinrich.

 

Definitely. Since I never expected Caron Butler and since Gerald Wallace seems to be unlikely, I'm not really that hopeful that RLEC will be turned into an impact player. Therefore, I wouldn't mind gambling that Deng can turn back into an impact player. He's regressed badly this season, but Bulls fans have been saying that Del Negro has been using him poorly. Hinrich I'm sure will never be the Hinrich of a few years ago, but he's a slight upgrade on Blake on offense and a big upgrade on Blake on defense. So this deal would strengthen our point guard position and give Portland the chance at a good, young small forward.

I consider that a good proposition.

 

I voted no, because I think that the Butler deal is out there, and I also think an insurance paid Raef contract is worth a lot. I prefer multiple ordinary player for star level player deals. This is not that.

 

I say yes. Deng I think will make a comeback, and on a different team, he may end up being quite a good player again. He would be an immediate upgrade at SF and then in the future, whoever is better between Webster, Batum and Deng can win the starting spot and the Blazers would still have some nice trading pieces. Getting Hinrich is a slight upgrade over Blake on O, but on D he could really help take some pressure off Roy. Also, I see Bayless as the future PG and I would rather him learn D from KH than Blake. As far as losing Outlaw and Sergio, I think it would hurt some, but this is a business and we cant keep players around cause they are friends of other players. Losing Sergio would not be a big deal at all. Losing Outlaw would hurt a little bit more, but I think Deng, LMA, Batum, and the returning Webster will be able to cover for him and then some.

 

No. Butler, Carter, Salmons, Jefferson, McGrady are all better than those two together.

Exhaust other options first before resorting to this deal.

 

i think Deng could be very good again. he was once and i dont think most would say it was a fluke. sometimes guys just get in bad situations (like Chicago) and play poorly. it wouldnt be the first time we saw a basketball player look completely different on a new team.

he's young, high character guy and would probably excel in Portland. Im not sure he needs the ball to be effective, whereas I think Outlaw certainly does.

Heinrich has been on KP's rumor radar for years, plus he's a former Jayhawk.

in the end, does the team feel that Outlaw is the everyday answer at the SF position? I cant see why not, but I can also see the allure of Deng. Plus they're getting a real nice price on Outlaw.

 

Why not? He's 6 years in and got beat out of the starting lineup by a rookie that can play some D.

 

Sorry to break it to you, but it would be Kirk Hinrich and Andres Nocioni if the rumor is about Chicago. Given Deng's recent play, there is no way Paxson is trading him for an expiring contract.

 

I would like Butler a lot more but would think this would be good trade for the Blazers. If Deng wasn't in the trade I wouldn't do it just for Hinrich and Noc.

 

like i said in the quick thread.....

getting kirk kills bayless playing time. right now he will still play even when blake comes back depending on whether we need offense or not. it also leaves us thin at the PF spot since thats where outlaw will go once web comes back.

THAT IS why I suggested the deal quick could be talking about IS (and it works)...

Butler, Sanglia, throw in FOR Outlaw, Sergio, and Raef

Blake/Bayless
Roy/Rudy
Butler/Webster?Batum
LA/Sanglia/Frye/Randolph
Oden/Pryz


I think the wiz want to be under the cap.... and i've read few times butler is very available

 

Washington laughs their ass off.

 

If Deng could get back to what he was, he'd be the real gem in this trade. And since that game against us awhile back, he's really turned it on and had some great games.
He'd be a great SF for us if he can stay healthy.

Hinrich.... I'm not really too high on though.

 

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why do they laugh? They wanna cap space...they are getting it. They are getting a PG whos better tehn anyone on their roster besides arenas who can play the 2. outlaw could start the rest of the season and be a decent backup.

lets see a better offer. dont be shocked if it goes down. it really fits everything we need except pg

 

If Deng is not in the deal, neither are the Blazers.

 

its not the bulls. sorry.

 

You'd be wise to pass on Hinrich+Nocioni (which is what the package would be, no way Bulls are trading Deng in this type of trade). Kirk Hinrich had one really good year, and otherwise has been an inefficient scorer, and just solid on defense.

Nocioni was really great in his first two seasons. Emerged as one of the team's leaders in 05-06 along with Gordon and Hinrich, helping lead the team to the playoffs.

Then in 06-07, the Bulls evolved into a team built around Hinrich/Gordon/Deng, with Nocioni as the fourth banana. Nocioni was scoring at a great efficient that year, but the team still got better when he went down with his injury. The past two years, he has evolved into a chucker that doesn't play defense.

But both Hinrich and Nocioni for some reason appear to have decent trade value and great interest around the league. If the Bulls can rid themselves of both in one trade, then that would be terrific. It would pave the way towards re-signing Ben Gordon and becoming a player in 2010 free agency.