Andre Miller to Portland being discussed?

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  1. Dakotah612

    Dakotah612 New Member

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    Jason Quick did say another player was thrown in as a sweetener. Iggy is more than that. So the most logical choice is Thad Young.
     
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    azsun67 Blazer fan in the Sun

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    No lets dream big Iggy and Miller for RLEC IKE and Frye and an unprotected 1st and a 2nd this year. Why 76 do it, for salary dump and because I want them to!!
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I would LOVE to get Miller. I think he is exactly the kind of point guard we need. He knows how to run the show, and the Nuggets took a dump after they traded him. They didn't start playing good ball again until they added Billups. I think Miller would make a big impact on the Blazers, and I've been saying it all season.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...25~2386~557&teams=20~20~20~20~22~22&te=&cash=

    How about that?
     
  4. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    ROFL at the avatar.

    Thad Young and Iggy are pipe dreams, honestly. Iggy has been playing great and they are REALLY high on Young who has star potential.

    Natebishop3, Philly scoffs at that offer.
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I have yet to see you come up with something... I wish you would, so I could make fun of you and call it a terrible trade. :sigh:
     
  6. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I do come up with random trades. Just not on this board.
     
  7. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That's a helluva deal for the Blazers, but if the Eastern team that Quick alluded to really is Philly, I'd imagine Thad Young would be more of a sweetener, whereas I see Iggy as the whole cake.

    This deal works in the trade checker: and satisfies the requirements of the rumor -- Raef + two non-starter rotation players (but would probably incite a riot (Rudy leaving not Sergio :wink:).
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...~3204~454~3025&teams=22~22~20~20~20&te=&cash=
     
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  8. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    You're going to be hard pressed trying to make Philadelphia give up Thaddeus Young...
     
  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I would do it. Webster comes back and slides into the backup shooting guard spot. Yes, you lose Rudy, but I'm not convinced that he would want to be a backup all his career anyway, and he has good value right now.
     
  10. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That's why I threw Rudy in the deal ... As far as I know the Sixers are pretty well stacked at small forward with Iguodala (although technically he's been playing shooting guard this season) Rudy gives them a deep threat from beyond the arc and has a ton of potential himself.

    I'm not saying it's going to happen, I was just trying to put something out there that satisfies the Quickchat rumor (PG + SF for RLEC and two rotation, non-starters) this does that.
     
  11. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Or Bayless or even Nic in certain situations.

    Frankly I think this deal isn't completely out of the realm of possibility since Sergio gets to stay with his buddy, and would probably flourish in an uptempo style that the sixers seem to favor.
     
  12. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Oh, yes I know. Rudy does give them what they need at the SG position, which is a shooter. Plus, this allows Iggy to move to his natural SF position.

    HOWEVER, Thaddeus Young has star potential, and I'm sure Philadelphia realizes that. While Rudy might turn out to be a fringe all-star, I think that's about as good as he'll get. You just don't trade someone with that much potential and is looking like he might fulfill that potential.

    Plus, trading Miller and Young means they are basically giving up this season, and that's probably not going to happen.
     
  13. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    You don't think that Sergio and Rudy could step in there with Iggy, Brand, and Dalembert to keep them in the playoff hunt?

    Another question, long-term can Iggy and Thad co-exist?
     
  14. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    They haven't gelled yet, but I believe so. Stars will figure out a way to work together, unless that star is Iverson.

    And no, I don't think Sergio and Rudy could step in with that group, (Not better than Miller and Thad anyways) especially since Dalembert is playing like garbage.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I freely admit I've only watched two Sixers games this year, so I might be making a stupid judgement based on some stats, but his PER is only 13.5 this year and only putting up 13 points and 5 rebounds in 34 minutes which is pretty good, but hardly "star potential" numbers -- admittedly his age (20) indicates he could be scratching the surface.

    I don't know I think this makes sense for both parties in that it reduces redundancy (SG for us, SF for them) trades two nearly equal value expirings and if I were KP I'd even through in second and first round picks to round it out.
     
  16. Natebishop3

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    Only one problem.... now we have Thad, Outlaw, Batum, AND Webster. Something would have to be done. Maybe move Outlaw AND Webster for something of use.
     
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    They like Young more than Iggy and they need shooting desperately. I was hell-bent on getting iggy before he signed that mondo contract, and it annoyed a lot of people on the board I used to post on. So it's with great hesitation that I purpose this trade, but I think it's somewhat plausible since the sixers need shooting and value Young > Iggy and less $. Willie Green is also a money hole...

    Philadelphia 76ers
    Incoming Players

    Jerryd Bayless
    Salary: $1,993,560 Years Remaining: 2

    Raef LaFrentz
    Salary: $12,722,500 Years Remaining: 1

    Steve Blake
    Salary: $4,250,000 Years Remaining: 2

    Travis Outlaw
    Salary: $4,000,000 Years Remaining: 2

    Outgoing Players: Andre Iguodala, Willie Green, Andre Miller

    They save a ton of money, clear some space for Thad to play, make Brand more effective, and grab some shooting. It wouldn't be popular, but if Bayless and Outlaw made some highlight plays the fans might be forgiving.


    Portland Trail Blazers
    Incoming Players

    Andre Iguodala
    Salary: $11,300,000 Years Remaining: 6

    Willie Green
    Salary: $3,388,000 Years Remaining: 3

    Andre Miller
    Salary: $10,333,334 Years Remaining: 1

    Outgoing Players: Jerryd Bayless, Raef LaFrentz, Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw

    Definitely a case of PA flexing his financial muscles and saying screw it, but that'd be a nice thing to do to the league after the D-Miles BS. Our rotation looks fantastic, and a move like this would really mean Brandon becomes our future 1 (perhaps even after this year)...the cake would be finished, just time to let it age...

    Miller/Sergio
    Roy/Rudy
    Iggy/Batum
    Aldridge/Frye
    Oden/Pryz

    (leaving Martell out of the equation for the rest of this season, we could buy out Green or let him rot)...

    next year...
    Roy/Sergio
    Rudy/Batum
    Iggy/Webster
    Aldridge/Frye
    Oden/Pryz


    now that would be a very fun team to watch. Between Roy/Rudy/Iggy there's enough ballhandling in the backcourt (with a saavy vet PG at the end of the bench just in case).
     
  18. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Yeah, that's the thing. He's 20, and he's already a great contributor. Plus, he's a very smart player and extremely athletic.


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    Oh god, darkhelmet has gone back to Iggy trades.
     
  19. Natebishop3

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    Why trade all those players and let Miller leave? I think Miller is EXACTLY the kind of point guard this team needs. He plays for 3-4 more years at high level and then he either takes a back seat or leaves while Bayless or Sergio takes over. It's win/win.
     
  20. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Miller will turn 33 next month. How much does he have left in the tank? I don't think it matters all that much as I see Miller as a stop gap until Bayless is ready to start.
     

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