Henry Abbot is a smart fella

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  1. Minstrel

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    I don't think how the team "looks" is terribly useful, but he makes good points about how being good at offensive rebounding will affect Pace (assuming it's measured the way he says it is...I'm too lazy to check) and turnovers will too.

    If getting two possessions instead of one due to an offensive rebound counts as "one possession," being good at offensive rebounding is going to make your Pace look slower than you actually play.
     
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    Why not?

    Team A scores 110pts and gives up 110pts per game.

    Team B scores 80pts and gives up 80pts per game.

    Both are .500 in record.

    Team A scores 14 fast break points per game. 12.7%

    Team B scores 10 fast break points per game. 12.5%

    I consider those similar percentages of total scoring just as valid as the 40% difference in total points when comparing their fast break offenses.

    Sure, I agree that Team A is much more of a fast breaking team. But, I also think that Team B is not 40% less prone to fast breaking. They have fewer opportunities to attempt break with the overall slower pace. Of course, if they forced the issue more then their Pace would be higher.
     
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    Good point. I'll have to look at that.

    EDIT: I did a quick "possessions per fast break bucket scored"...we're 26th, ahead of TOR, HOU and SAS. We average 20.1 possession per fast break score. PHI leads the league at 10 poss per FB bucket, and DEN at 11.
     
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    Portland players that are not rookies that Masbee considers above average on the break for their position:

    LaMarcus Aldridge


    Therein lies the problem.

    Roy walks the ball up the court and wants to run half-court plays.

    Blake cannot pass well on the run.

    Sergio can't finish, which makes his breaks less effective. He must have players break with him.

    Joel. Enough said.

    Travis is below average for forwards on the break.

    Webster is average on the break. Been out anyway.

    Who else we got? Frye, Diogu. Fast Break challenged.

    However, wait a year or two and some of the rookies have good potential. Batum runs the floor very well. Bayless is a guard that can finish and is extremely agressive. A one man break. Rudy loves to run and knows how to do it properly.

    Depending on what happens to the team in the next year, the Blazers could field an excellent "Press and Break" unit with any combination of: Sergio, Bayless, Rudy, Webster, Batum, and LaMarcus, or 4 of those and a rebounding center.

    Right now, with the rookies getting their sea legs and on short leashes, I wouldn't expect a team with this roster to break all the time. It would surprise if they did.
     
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    This has been one of the more interesting threads in a while. I am at work and unable to add much, but thanks.
     

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