Kevin Pelton's Player Similarity Test - From BlazersEdge

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  1. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Some of you may have seen this already, but for those who haven't...

    Essentially, he's taking Blazer players, and using stats to find comparable players who have already made their mark in the league. I think it's really interesting and will make for some good discussion. Oh, and I think MARIS will cream his pants.

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    Crimson the Cat Well-Known Member

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    That was great. Thanks!

    Love the comparison match of Rudy and Reggie. That's about where my expectations are for Rudy I think.
     
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    I got to thinking after reading that cool article why I like Rudy so much. On the surface, his style of game is eerily similar to Reggie Miller's. I had never really made the connection. Even though we've seen him struggle throughout the season with his 3-point accuracy, he's still hitting 40% of them. Given that the NBA 3-pt line is what, about 3-feet further out, he's adjusted pretty well.

    Another similarity is the way he plays off the ball, darting around screens/opponents/teammates to get free.

    Reggie was crafty, but not in the way that Rudy is. Rudy uses his athleticism and quickness to get so many tips and rebounds. It won't show in the box scores, but he keeps so many possessions alive for us it seems.

    His playmaking abilities are very good. I wish that Nate could utilize those skills more. I suppose we just have too many other cooks in the kitchen to really see what he can do right now.

    He's got to work on when to take his shots and getting more elevation on those 3-pointers. His release point isn't very high, so he's got to either get used to defenders getting a lot closer to his shot or he's got to use those legs and get some height. It's not the Euro League where he can juke defenders free to get his shot. The longer he toys with NBA defenders, the longer they'll have to adjust and clamp down on him.

    Anyway, I thought the article was pretty good. It shows that at the same stages, he and Reggie are/were nearly identical players.

    Any of you see a way that Rudy could have the same type of success as Reggie if he stays here in Portland?
     
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    Ok. So evidently I'm chatting with myself. That's cool. I like me.

    Anyway, the comparison with Travis Outlaw and Michael Finley is interesting and fits well. That would mean our back up power forward is playing like 2-inch shorter small forward. Not sure that's a good thing future-wise.
     
  6. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Roy and Kobe..... gotta like that :)
     
  7. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    It's a comparison of the players at the same age. Outlaw still has some room to grow.

    I think the most telling comparison are the ones with Roy. Kobe, Drexler, Dantly? Those are some elite comparisons.
     
  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Sergio is Gary Payton? Sure.... in bizzaro world.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Well, before Payton could shoot the ball? Maybe. Obviously, GP was always worlds ahead of Sergio on defense, but I doubt similarity score incorporates defense in any meaningful way.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Of course he's not. Didn't a "certain someone" :-)wink:) tell you Gary Payton wouldn't be worthy to carry Sergio's jock strap?

    Bake it! :NOTMARIS:
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Bake it indeed.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Similar, stat wise, at the same age. Then Payton blew up. I don't see the same thing w/ Serg.
     
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    Payton developed a shot. If Sergio did too, he'd be much more effective. But developing a shot from terrible to dangerous is a pretty rare thing.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Also...Payton plays...you know....D.
     
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    Sure, but I don't think defense is factored into similarity. I was only talking about statistical production.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    True.

    I think Jason Terry is somewhat of a surprise on Sergio's list given that Terry is much more of an offensive minded player.
     
  17. Natebishop3

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    But the defense was such a big part of who GP was. Well..... Defense and trash talking. Payton was more street, and Sergio is more country club.
     
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    If Payton is the glove . . does that make Batum the jacket?

    I was thinking long sleeve shirt, but that just doesn't roll off the tounge. The boot?
     
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    The scarf :clap:
     
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    I like it . . . very french.
     

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