Spurs sitting Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili against the Nuggets

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  1. JE

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    I didn't know the Spurs were circumventing the salary cap and planning to keep Duncan, Parker, and Manu locked away for the rest of the season.
     
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    You keep saying this, but I've yet to see how playing by the letter of the rules is "circumventing the salary cap". Everything the Blazers tried to do regarding Miles is by the book.
     
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    Didn't Денг Гордон already settle this?
     
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    No, not at all.

    Who is BG7?
     
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    It actually doesn't say it exactly as BG7 posted, and I still wonder how playing completely by the rules is "circumventing the salary cap". Had Memphis never waived Miles, and had some other team claimed him, this would be a moot issue anyhow. The fact is that no team outside of Portland deemed Darius as being worthy of a guaranteed contract when Memphis first waived him.

    Anyhow, we disagree on this, and unless the Blazers decide to challenge the NBA on it, it's over until that point.
     
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    Try to follow the bouncing ball, and respond to the points made, instead of trying to get a reaction, ok? We'll go real slow, so you don't get sidetracked.

    The Blazers followed every rule in Mile's medical retirement. League and Union approved doctors agreed with the retirement.

    Here's where you can respond directly to a point.....where did Portland circumvent a rule?
     
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    Oh the irony. :rolleyes:

    Great.

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q53

    Claiming Miles when its all too obvious that he would just be banished from the team, just to save their cap room... that's circumventing the salary cap.
     
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    And yet I'll again point out that the only reason the Blazers had a shot at Miles is because he was waived and no other team in the league wanted him or deemed him a worthy enough player to pay him for the rest of the year. That is completely by the rules and should be brought by the Blazers to an arbitrator after the season.
     
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    Then why is he in Memphis?
     
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    Memphis waived him and let every other team in the league have a shot at him. He's in Memphis because the NBA didn't allow Portland to claim him. I just said that. lol
     
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    Because the league viewed it as an attempt to circumvent the salary cap. They have discretion in these cases, and I doubt the league office has any real reason to screw Portland.
     
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    That will be for lawyers to decide after the season is over. Bank on that.
     
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    Great. Let's see how it plays out after the season. I think the Blazers have a strong argument considering they did everything by the book. :dunno:
     
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    I still want to believe what maxiep said. memphis was trying to force us into a trade, we didnt wanna do so they said either do it or we'll sign miles. tape recorded and everything. YOU BETTER NOT BE LYING max lol
     
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    Not sure how the Spurs decision last night turned into this, but...

    I've come to the conclusion that the NBA was correct to block our move.

    Think of it this way. Lets say another team (we'll use the Lakers :devilwink:) was in the same exact situation as the Blazers were. Would you have no problem with them picking Miles up and stashing him? I would because I'd see it as a team signed a player to a bad contract, and even though the guy can play, they found a loophole where they can still pay him but it doesn't count against the cap. That would enable them to sign other players in free agency and I'd be pissed.

    I don't think the Blazers necessarily did anything wrong, why not try, but I no longer think we've been wronged in some way. Oh and Fuck Memphis anyways.
     
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    The "loophole" was only created because no other team in the league thought Miles was worthy of anything other than a 10-day contract when Memphis waived Darius. So, I'm not sure how that shows that "the guy can play". Nobody wanted him and he was available to every team.

    As for the rest of your post, I pretty much agree with you.
     
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    I think Memphis waived him the first time just because they weren't sure yet if they wanted to gaurantee him the rest of the year. They signed him again 3 days later, and after further evaluation decided to sign him the rest of the year.

    You're right, he was available to every other team, but the contract he would have signed with them would have counted against their cap, just as it should have counted against ours if we picked him up. Due to the unique circumstances, if we'd have picked him up it wouldn't have counted against our cap - We'd essentially be able to choose whether we want his contract to count against the cap or not - and that isn't exactly fair. Think of all the teams that would like to do that with some of their own bad contracts.

    Again, it's a unique situation, and I think the rules need to be changed. Maybe they should allow the original team to pickup the player but the salary immediately goes back on the cap regardless of games played. If the original team chooses not to, he then becomes available to everyone else. This protects both the team he signed with orginally as well as the player not getting shafted because a team no longer thinks he's worth the contract.
     
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    LMAO. are you guys fucking serious? the Blazers have a RIGHT to sign a player just to sit him the whole season so they don't pay for their stupid mistake in signing him for too much money? how is that beneficial to the player? and that, Pritchard was somehow "justified" in sending that email to all the NBA execs, when he was criticized for it by everyone but blazer fans (and even some intelligent blazer fans) because he was trying to discourage teams to sign Miles, to again cover up for his mistake? man. keep drinking that kool-aid, it must be pretty damn good.

    and to try to compare this to Pop sitting his starters again causes me nothing but :roflmao:
     
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    Ugh...at least you didn't ramble too much. Thanks for playing.
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