Is Oden partly a victim of the Deron Williams treatment?

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  1. Ed O

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    Your whining, as far as I'm concerned, are these assertions from this thread directed towards me:

    "I know you're m.o. is to dispute pretty much any opinion I have"

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    "Or don't, and continue to let personal grudges impact your posting patterns"

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    "at this point it is clear you have some sort of problem with me"

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    "Did you just jump right to my post and pounce, because that what seems likely at this point"

    Those are complaints and/or paranoia. It's funny but sad at the same time.

    Are you confusing me with someone else?

    I have no opinion on how Nate uses rookies generally. I think that he's using Oden poorly, but I'm not sure that it's because of a similar attitude that Sloan has.

    Where have I agreed with you in this thread?

    Heck... you won't even tell me what you're talking about. You keep pointing me back to words that seem to be as clear as day to me but you keep telling me are misrepresentations of what you ACTUALLY mean.

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    I really don't care at this point. If it makes you feel better to continually misrepresent my position solely in order to argue with me, rock on.
     
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    I've asked you to state wtf you're talking about. You are claiming that I am off-topic. You are claiming that I am agreeing with you.

    I just have no idea what you're talking about. If you don't want to explain, that's fine. Don't treat it like I'm picking on you, though, because of it.

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    I'm gonna say no. If Nate was following the book that Sloan did with Deron, Greg wouldn't be starting. He'd be playing behind Joel and he'd get yanked at the first mistake and have that mistake explained to him over and over again while he watched Joel properly do the thing that he screwed up on.

    Greg Oden sucks simply because Greg Oden sucks. At this point in his career that's just how it is.

    That doesn't completely invalidate Rasta's theory though. It's entirely possible that Nate is having Oden play in some complicated offensive and defensive sets so that he can learn and grow and right now it's to the detriment of his game. Could be that Nate knows that he could be using Greg better by running some sort of zone defense where Greg's job is to stand in the key and try to block shots. Or change the offense so that it better suits Greg's current abilities rather than running an offense he believes in long term that Greg has to adjust to.

    But, like Boise Blazer said, I just don't buy it. Nate is too much of a win now guy. He's not gonna specifically put Greg in situations where he's going to fail and it could cost us the game cause he thinks it's going to help is development long term. I don't think Nate, or any NBA coach really, thinks long term. He's thinking about the next game and that's that.
     
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