Strategy Against the Spurs

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  1. mavsfan1000

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    Since the Spurs are putting Bowen on Nowitkzi I think the Mavs need to make them pay by having the spurs big man guard a much quicker player. I would go with a lineup of Harris/Terry/Howard/Dirk/Diop which would force either the spurs to go small as well or Duncan or Mohammad to guard Harris, Terry, or Howard. To me having Griffin in the game is a liability in this matchup and Dallas needs someone that can exploit that matchup or make the spurs big man have to guard the 3 point line.
     
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    I like that lineup as we have used it a lot this year to close out games. But I would switch Diop with Dampier, because I think Dampier gives Duncan more problems.
     
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    Well if the mavs do that lineup than the spurs would probably put Horry in the game to guard Howard and than the mavs should put Dampier in even though Diop had more success guarding Duncan in the last game and Dampier doesn't get the ball enough to be much of a factor.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Dampier in even though Diop had more success guarding Duncan in the last game and Dampier doesn't get the ball enough to be much of a factor.</div>I think Damp did better, also Diop doesn't get the ball either. What's the difference? Damp clogs the middle better with his size.
     
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    No offense but did you see that 4th quarter against the Spurs? Duncan owned Dampier for the big points of it. Anyways the idea of that lineup is trying to get Duncan to guard Howard or take out Mohammad and put Horry for that.
     
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    damn you make it seem like duncan is just some garbage player here, duncan has owned many centers in the fourth, he's owned shaq plenty of times, so would you rather have diop then shaq cause he did good against tim once in a couple of quarters???? it's not damps fault he's going against arguably top 5 pf ever to play this game
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>No offense but did you see that 4th quarter against the Spurs? Duncan owned Dampier for the big points of it.</div>Duncan still didn't do much in the 4th quarter, he made a key basket down the stretch. But Dampier by far was not owned.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (koopa @ Mar 6 2006, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>damn you make it seem like duncan is just some garbage player here, duncan has owned many centers in the fourth, he's owned shaq plenty of times, so would you rather have diop then shaq cause he did good against tim once in a couple of quarters???? it's not damps fault he's going against arguably top 5 pf ever to play this game</div>Well Duncan had trouble against the likes of Diop and Dampier. I just think Diop is a step quicker and challenges Duncan better.
     
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    Spurs would counter. I don't know what with, but I'll trust pop to come up with something. He isn't the best gameday coach in the league for nothing.
     
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    sorry this is off-topic, but if you're a spurs fa, the why the hell is your name "TheTruth"??
     
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    The Mavs would have beat the Spurs if Dirk posted Bruce Bowen up. All he did was try to get open jumpshots. You aren't going to outquick a player thats quicker than you, it's impossible. Overpower him with your strangth and size(Yes, I did get that from Charles Barkley)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Mar 6 2006, 02:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Mavs would have beat the Spurs if Dirk posted Bruce Bowen up. All he did was try to get open jumpshots. You aren't going to outquick a player thats quicker than you, it's impossible. Overpower him with your strangth and size(Yes, I did get that from Charles Barkley)</div>Actually the spurs doubled Dirk every time he tried to post Bowen and Dirk is not good in passing out of double teams.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheTruth @ Mar 5 2006, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Spurs would counter. I don't know what with, but I'll trust pop to come up with something. He isn't the best gameday coach in the league for nothing.</div>no no, pop is a complete idiot and wouldn't know how to counter someones lineup if the other coach showed him what to do [​IMG] like the truth said pop isn't one of the best coach in the league cause he's pretty, it's because he knows how to gameplan.
     
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    Ok if Avery did a lineup of this and the spurs put Bowen on Dirk than they would have to do this. C Diop against MohammadPF Nowitzki against BowenSF J. Howard against DuncanSG J. Terry against GinobiliPG D. Harris against Parker. Or they would have to go smaller like this. C Diop against DuncanPF Nowitzki against BowenSF J. Howard against HorrySG J. Terry against GinobiliPG D. Harris against Parker. Either way the mavs would have a speed advantage with a big having to guard Josh Howard. This will only work though if Terry and Harris both play at the same time. Otherwise Duncan will probably guard Stackhouse or Griffin which isn't as much of a mismatch.
     
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    Yeah, it's true that Dirk could own bowen if he posted up but Dirk has problems posting up smaller players. If he could dominated in the post whilst keeping his shot he'd dominated the nba.Secondly i agree with Koopa. Duncan isn't a garbage player, healthy duncan will put Diop in his place.
     
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    Diop is designed specifically to guard Duncan. He is long and active and strong in interior defense. The only weakness is guarding outside players that have extreme quickness. Duncan is not like this. Duncan is at his best in the post and that is Diop's strength as well on defense. I'm not saying Diop owns Duncan but Diop will make it as hard as anyone for Duncan to score on.
     
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    You're overrating Diop a little bit. Duncan will find away to get around it...
     
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    The reason Diop is not getting any notice is because he has no offense. He is a great defender though and has guarded some really good players already and has success. The only problem he has is foul trouble but when he avoids it he is really aggresive on defense.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Mar 5 2006, 11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're overrating Diop a little bit. Duncan will find away to get around it...</div>no diop is god, and timmy might as well retire becasuse diop is gonna dominate him everytime they play [​IMG] tim is a completly different player in the playoffs, and diop has how much playoff experince???? that game on april 7th ain't gonna mean a damn thing to the spurs, hell don't be surprised if timmy is "hurt" that game and doesn't play. pop does it every year, he sits ppl with fake injuries. and that speed factor is bull, everyone said the exact same <Censored> about the suns last year, and the suns last year are better then the mavs offense this year and we won that series in 5. but like i said in the other thread keep trying to make yourself feel better<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Mar 5 2006, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The reason Diop is not getting any notice is because he has no offense. He is a great defender though and has guarded some really good players already and has success. The only problem he has is foul trouble but when he avoids it he is really aggresive on defense.</div>bowen used to have no offense at all and he still got credit for what he does, maybe you are overrating diop a lot
     
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    But No Dallas's defense is new and improved. Now there mixing offense and defense. eg Tonigh's game and the spurs game [​IMG]
     

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