"Poor economy influencing trade decisions"

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  1. free_lafrentz

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    Just incase anyone was wondering about Paul Allen's financial status, here is a direct quote from NBA.com VIA hoopshype rumors...

    "Meanwhile, the haves, like Portland--whose owner, Paul Allen, still has a net worth of $16 billion or so after years of nine-figure losses, according to Forbes--still can make deals for basketball reasons. I'm told by a reliable source that the Blazers could lose another eight figures this season. But they'll still be active before the deadline and in the offseason." - NBA.com
     
  2. Natebishop3

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    That's a thought I have been having as well.
     
  3. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    You mean, like this?
     
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    Yeah, that isn't bad. I'd like to believe Portland could get an even better player than Deng (granted, Hinrich is a decent role-player), like Devin Harris. But I could certainly live with Deng and Hinrich.
     
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    i would die for harris.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Isn't it funny what a year can change? I remember around this time last year, some Blazer fans were opposed to the idea of trading for Harris.
     
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    We're not getting Harris. They've built the team round him! Why would they get Stoudemire and lose someone they've built the team round? Stoudemire clearly isn't THAT good, unless Terry Porter is really THAT bad.

    Put it this way: we probably have the same chance of getting Harris (great young PG, best player on a team with little else going for it) as we do of getting Chris Paul. After all, N'Awlins is probably on shakier financial ground than NJ. I see this as a bad thing. If you see this as a good thing ("we could get Chris Paul!") then this is you:

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    For the last few years, Stoudemire has been one of the most valuable players in the game, and he's still young. He's having a down year this year, but a single half-year hardly defines his value. New Jersey has been maneuvering to get one of the premier free agents of 2010, of which Stoudemire is one. Acquiring him now, along with his Bird rights, would essentially guarantee that they could keep him long-term since they could pay him more than anyone else.

    I don't see your comparison as a good thing or a bad thing. I think your comparative odds are wrong. Harris is very good, but he doesn't approach the class of Chris Paul, who's currently on track to be one of the several greatest point guards in history.
     
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    not even my life is good enough for harris? ill sacrifice my life for the rest of you blazer fans:cheers:
     
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    seriously. i wanted that trade so bad. one thing about KP i dont like is he is to close to his players. i think thats one of the reasons we didnt do it
     
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    It would have been awesome, but I am pretty sure it wasn't a real possibility. Dallas needed a point guard in return and I am pretty sure Old Kidd >>>>>> Blake + Jack+ Sergio much less any one of them.
     
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    Dallas was going to get Kidd. The three-way deal was reported to be this:

    Portland: Devin Harris
    Dallas: Jason Kidd and Malik Allen
    New Jersey: Jarrett Jack, Travis Outlaw, Deaven George, Channing Frye and Jerry Stackhouse.
     
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    Guh...couple that with getting Robin Lopez @ 13?
     
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    Here's a less exciting three way: Miami want Amare, but (supposedly) Phoenix doesn't want Marion back. Voila:

    Portland gets Marion (for Channing and RLEC)
    Miami gets Stoudemire and filler for Beasley and Marion
    Phoenix gets RLEC and Beasley

    It's pretty boring for us except we rent Marion as a backup for the rest of the season.
     
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    I see that as helping two other teams much more than we get helped. Marion for 3 months for 15M in expiring salaries? Not a huge fan.
     
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    really, New Jersey would say no? Unless Ryan Anderson has some great value that I'm unaware of, they trade a 32 year old star for a 26 year old star, and a big to boot. They also position themselves to make a splash in the 2010 free agent sweepstakes. Maybe unloading Najera's contract would make them bite.

    I would've thought that Phoenix are the ones to say hell no. Unless they're absolutely desperate for money, they would probably be better off waiting until the offseason to do some fullscale rebuilding. What's the point of trading Amare if Shaq and Nash don't go too? and it's unlikely that there will be that much activity mid-season.

    In any case, I think it's obvious that I'm addicted to the trade machine...
     

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