Are the Warriors overrated?

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  1. Zards

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    Most people, including myself, thought at the beginning of the season the Golden State Warriors would become a playoff contender in the West with their backcourt of Davis and Richardson. It hasnt happened. They have lost 9 of their last 10 games on the road, resulting to a 25-34 record. Not even in the playoff picture. Baron Davis has done well in scoring and assists statistical categories, but he has averaged 3 turnovers a game to go along with his stats. It seems he was the difference-maker that Golden State finished strong in the 2nd half of the season, getting recogniton. But now they're returning back to the old ways. Jason Richardson has been a stud, expanding his game more than just dunking. He's shooting 39% from long range, averaging a career-high 23 points and has been good on the boards. Dont forget Murphy, Pietrus and Dunleavy. All of them are solid supporting cast players and Murphy is just a beast as a rebounder. Dunleavy is a good shooter, and Pietrus is exposing that great international talent. It seems Golden State has all the right tools to succeed, so who else is to blame? Is it the head coach, Mike Montgomery? Thoughts?
     
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    Baron Davis is as overrated as you can get, he is selfish and cannot shoot the ball. They don't have a leader on that team. Their best inside player likes to shoot three pointers rather than play tough inside.
     
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    I knew they would have an improvement but to hell you the truth, I never thought them to be a playoff team. They have a great backcourt, even though I think Baron Davis is overrated. But they do not have any force at PF/C. Until they get some substance and power at those positions they won't go anywhere. Murph has a nice shot and I can see that he's trying to become more of an inside guy, he is a good rebounder but he is no force on the defensive end. They need someone who can help them in that department.
     
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    Can't disagree with anything CB said because he pretty much said what I did above.
     
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    At one point during the summer I thought they would make it far.Boy was I wrong.
     
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    Lack of size (with talent) and bad coaching is something the Warriors have been struggling with for a while. They made the attempt to correct one issue by picking up Biedrins, who hasn't done much at all.On the other hand, I think Diogu will do really well for them in the future. Too bad Murphy is a true PF.
     
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    I;d hate to be a warriors fan right now.They did pretty well the first 1/3 of the season, but they just let everyone who likes them as of yet.They looked like such a good team looking at the roster at the beginning of the season. Wow.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real Deal @ Mar 6 2006, 03:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lack of size (with talent) and bad coaching is something the Warriors have been struggling with for a while. They made the attempt to correct one issue by picking up Biedrins, who hasn't done much at all.On the other hand, I think Diogu will do really well for them in the future. Too bad Murphy is a true PF.</div> Too bad, this team is stuck together with pretty bad longterm deals. Thank god for Derek Fisher and Adonal Foyle.
     
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    Lol, I had a bet with a warriors fan that Baron davis would get injured and they would make the playoffs.Guess i was right [​IMG]
     
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    Baron's shooting % is horrible. He's been making plays, but thats it.Richardson's shooting shows up every now and then. But not much. Plus his defense is terrible.No inside game by the way. Even though I would love to see Troy Murphy in a Lakers uni. Warriors suck. GO LAKERS!
     
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    Yeah if you really think about it, they are just about the worst team in the league in terms of defense. They have no starting players who can play good perim. defense. I think that's part of the reason they aren't doing well. I think they should try to get James Posey in the off-season.
     
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    Ike Diogu needs to bring his game NOW if the Warriors want any chance of making the playoffs. He will stay in the post, and he is physical and strong.
     
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    I saw an improvement, but playoffs? Their past 3 seasons they've been .500+ to finish the year. They are simply too young, and with Baron and JRich, two selfish players in your backcourt, what success will you ahve in the West?Proves: Selfishness wins nothing
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Mar 6 2006, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah if you really think about it, they are just about the worst team in the league in terms of defense. They have no starting players who can play good perim. defense. I think that's part of the reason they aren't doing well. I think they should try to get James Posey in the off-season.</div> James Posey is one of the most overrated defenders in the NBA.
     
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    James Posey is a solid defensive player, good shooter and he is a classy guy. I think he would help them out considerably.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Mar 5 2006, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Baron Davis is as overrated as you can get, he is selfish and cannot shoot the ball. They don't have a leader on that team. Their best inside player likes to shoot three pointers rather than play tough inside.</div> How can anyone dishing 10 dimes a game be selfish? I dont care if you have the ball the entire game and are playing catch and shoot, 10 dimes is 10 dimes. Why do people measure selfishness with team success? Do you think the fact that the Warriors are losing has something to do with likely the worst defensive frontcourt and backcourt in the NBA, and very soft players espically Troy Murphy. They need a defensive enforcer, Baron Davis is very good at setting up his teammates, that was proven when he was one of the few players in their near 20 year history to lead them to the playoffs.
     
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    Baron Davis is selfish, he sat out games in New Orleans when he could have played, he was injured when he was traded to the Warriors and suddenly when he went there he was cured and was putting up 20ppg. In Charlotte and New Orleans he came into training camp fat and got injured because of his high weight and didn't seem to care often being out 35 games a year. That sort of thing is cheating your team and being selfish.
     
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    I think there a team that flies under the radar. If they do good, no one really notices, and if they do bad, same deal. It may just be because I am from Boston, but they are virtually unheard of so I can't see how they would be overrated.
     
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    Everyone was saying how improved they would be...They have been playing terribly lately.
     
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    But do you think that means there overrated? Ok, they recieved some hype about how there team was looking alot better, and could potentially be a playoff contender, but I don't see how they were overrated. The Celtics were expected by many to get back to the playoffs, are they overrated?
     

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