A Suns-Bulls trade that works financially

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  1. MikeDC

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    I've been trying to figure out how to make a trade for Amare that gets the Suns under the luxury tax but also keeps us below it. Because I don't think Reinsdorf will pay it.

    So try this one on:

    Bulls trade: Kirk, Deng, Noah, Thabo, Simmons, Gray, Ruffin, $3M cash to Grizzlies, 09 pick to Suns
    Bulls get: Amare, JRich, Q. Ross

    The Bulls net cap change in this trade is $1.2M, so they're technically going to be over the luxury tax threshold, but they'd still have a week to unload Gooden, Hughes or Nocioni in a move that recovers that million and fills out the roster a bit more. So there would have to be one more trade, but it seems very doable to me. Examples: Gooden for Nick Collison, or Noc for Stackhouse, or Hughes+Noc for Tinsley, Rasho, Diener. Seems very doable to me, and something that could possibly be pre-arranged.

    1- Rose, Hunter
    2- Gordon, JRich
    3- JRich, Ross
    4- Tyrus, Noc
    5- Amare, Gooden


    Suns trade: Amare, JRich
    Suns get: Deng, Hinrich, Noah, Gray, pick

    Why the Suns do it: This trade takes just under $4.9M off this year's salary cap, which puts them under the luxury tax and gives them at least $10M, probably more, in savings. They've reduced next year's cap value by about $7.6M

    And the talent return is substantial. Deng, Hinrich and Noah are a very solid return, and the Suns could credibly still get somewhere if Shaq and Nash play like a badasses this Spring.


    Griz trade: Q. Ross
    Griz get: Thabo, Simmons, Ruffin, $3M cash

    The Griz do this because the net cost to them is only to partially cover Thabo's salary next season, and at that price Thabo is worth a flier.
     
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    Hell no, that is too much, even for Amare. I'm not willing to give up Kirk AND Deng, I dont even think I'd give up one or the other.
     
  3. Денг Гордон

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    We'd be getting Jason Richardson back too though.

    I like this trade best. But I don't see Phoenix doing it. I think they'd rather have the Gooden, big, Sefolosha, pick and maybe 2nd big package.
     
  4. MikeDC

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    What future does Kirk have on this team with Rose here? Fan favorite or not. Hell, as a fan of Kirk, I want to see him go somewhere where he'll be able to play the most. The Suns need a Nash replacement and Kirk could be it. We... have Rose, and he's not going anywhere.
     
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    Fastforward7 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Yea but Lindsey Hunter is our backup PG, I mean if we can bring in a quality backup PG that can efficiently replace Kirk then I'm for it, but Im not willing to watch BG play PG because he's horrible at it. I'm just looking for people who are going to completely compliment Rose along with whoever else they bring in.
     
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    Meh, we can make a follow on trade of some combo of Hughes/Gooden/Noc to fill out the roster and get another backup.
     

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