Portland Loves Them Some LaMarcus Aldridge

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  1. STOMP

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    Mine has Roy +2.2 Outlaw at -2.3 points per 100 possessions. The 82games.com ratings weighted heavily for the current season, which increases noise.

    Here's the thing about +/-. It takes tons of data to begin separating one player from another - I mean like 3 or more seasons. Even then there is still enough noise that some players will be significantly underrated or overrated.

    Here is my top 30 from 2005 to now.

    Code:
    PlayerName	Rating	Off	Def	StdError
    Garnett, Kevin	+13.9	+4.9	-8.9	1.5
    James, LeBron	+13.7	+11.4	-2.3	1.6
    Bryant, Kobe	+12.6	+12.2	-0.4	1.7
    Duncan, Tim	+11.7	+6.4	-5.3	1.8
    Wade, Dwayne	+10.3	+10.1	-0.2	1.6
    Nash, Steve	+9.5	+11.9	+2.4	1.7
    Jamison, Antawn	+9.0	+7.6	-1.4	1.6
    Ginobili, Manu	+8.0	+5.8	-2.2	1.4
    Bosh, Chris	+7.9	+5.6	-2.3	1.5
    Kidd, Jason	+7.7	+5.7	-2.0	1.5
    Paul, Chris	+7.6	+5.8	-1.9	1.7
    Nowitzki, Dirk	+7.5	+7.7	+0.2	1.6
    Davis, Baron	+7.4	+5.7	-1.7	1.3
    Artest, Ron	+7.3	+2.7	-4.6	1.3
    Billups, Chaun	+7.3	+8.6	+1.3	1.7
    Terry, Jason	+7.2	+6.3	-0.9	1.6
    Ming, Yao	+6.5	+0.8	-5.7	1.7
    Carter, Vince	+6.4	+5.9	-0.5	1.6
    Aldridge, L	+6.3	+2.9	-3.4	1.8
    Quinn, Chris	+6.3	+6.6	+0.4	2.3
    Kirilenko, A	+6.1	+2.1	-4.0	1.6
    Harris, Devin	+6.1	+3.8	-2.2	1.5
    Ilgauskas, Zy	+6.0	+1.6	-4.3	1.7
    Pierce, Paul	+5.7	+5.2	-0.5	1.5
    Howard, Dwight	+5.7	+3.3	-2.4	1.7
    Wallace, Ras	+5.6	+2.3	-3.3	1.8
    Deng, Luol	+5.5	+2.3	-3.2	1.5
    Miller, Brad	+5.4	+3.3	-2.0	1.5
    McGrady, Tra	+4.8	+4.9	+0.1	1.6
    Lewis, Rash	+4.7	+5.0	+0.4	1.3
    
    *Negative defense is good defense.

    In that list you can expect one or two players to be overrated by +3 or more. Likewise one or two players who should be one the list were underrated by -3 and shoved off the list. And then you have even more players off by +/-2 and +/-1.

    Roy is hopefully underrated. Mine shows that his defense is not too good.

    Probably LA is one of the ones overrated. But I doubt Amare is better. The spread is too big.
     
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    1. I don't believe the std error reported by 82games.com. They weighted heavily for the current season but their standard error is as if it were 5 seasons of unweighted data.

    2. Even with gobs (3.5 seasons) of unweighted data, the standard error is still high enough that a few elite players will look like somewhat good players and a few average players will look like very good players. And everything in between.

    Mine:
    Chris Paul +7.6
    Dwight Howard +5.7
    Kenyan Martin +2.5
    Mike Dunleavy Jr +2.1

    PS In case anyone was curious

    Code:
    Player			Rating	Off	Def	StdError
    Rodriguez, Sergio	-6.8	-4.3	+2.4	2.3
    
     
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    Exactly. So how can everyone spend so much damn time talking about this crap?!

    In KP I trust.
     
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    And the fact that Aldridge is like 2 years younger, no? IN 2 years, we don't know how good LMA will be...

    Yep...
     
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