You know, I learn something new every day. "Epic Fail" isn't something I know much about, but it seems as if it's teenager-speak for "I just got my ass handed to me. Sorry. I'll leave now."
Mixum, do you think KP would do the first if the second wasn't lined up? Are they co-contingent (I think I might've just made up a word. Sorry). I don't see us not using RLEC b/c we have Ike and Shav as our backup 4s, but it's a bit troubling, wouldn't you say?
I agree. I think Butler/Wallace were the intended targets and RJ is the fallback plan. I like him better than Salmons, not near as much as the 1st two.
Wallace is such a terrible 3-pt shooter that I just don't see him fitting in to what the SF position needs to be in this offense, and especially as Oden develops and becomes more of a primary scoring option in the low post.
I honestly don't think we really need a 3 point shooter anymore. I like the fact that he takes it to the rim and gets to the line and I think its something we need. we have too many people who just jack up 3s, specially now once Blake is back in the starting lineup. I think he'd be perfect, especially on the defensive end and getting us some fast break points/easy baskets. Honestly, Batum isn't that great of a 3 poitn shooter and didn't take all that many 3s and I think we did fine w/ him.
what i think is...we will get RJ. If somehow KP caved and took back curry/lee we would have our backup PF which prob would cost very liitle if KP said...i will take coury. Infact it might just be a draft pick we would have to give up. like i said earlier... we prob make 2 deals. 1 for RJ and Rid. the the other for a backup PF where we trade frye or draft picks. Also Im almost 100% positive its RJ
Well, if that is the case, Jefferson seems ideal since he shoots much better from the outside, yet he also has attempted 70 more FTs this season compared to Wallace. The more I think about it, the more I want to see Richard Jefferson in a Blazer uniform. EDIT - Wallace 6.3 FTA/game, Jefferson 5.9 FTA/game.
Jefferson has played more games though, right? And with Redd going down, and Bogut if I remember right, he is definitely their number 1 option. Wallace may not be the offensive player that Jefferson is, but the fact that he is 26, a better defender, and can get to the line at will is a turn-on for me from a fitting in standpoint.
The team shoots three pointers extremely well, though. I think the team needs someone who attacks the hoop more than a three point shooter. Obviously, three point shooting would be nice, but if I were to prioritize tools in order of importance as I see it, it would go something like: slasher who can finish and draw fouls, excellent perimeter defense, decent passing, decent rebounding, outside shooting Of course, to be even simpler, I basically want two things: efficient scoring and strong perimeter defense. Gerald Wallace fits that to a T. Caron Butler is a better overall player but a somewhat less perfect fit. Carter and Jefferson are less good fits, but Carter is like Butler in that he compensates by simply being very good overall. His only flaw is his age. But if he were young-prime, he wouldn't be available.
His scoring is not the sole reason. He is a complete player. Why the hell are you using all-star games to help verify your case? Are you aware that whoever makes the all-star team is decided by subjective voting, right? You are aware that the game itself is completely meaningless, right? Brandon Roy was made the team's leader right from the outset. Devin Harris was drafted into a loaded Mavericks team and spent two years on the bench as an eigth man before being made a starter. Hey, since the Blazers are better than the Heat, does that make Roy better than Dwyane Wade? Once again your reasoning is junk. LOL @ stad-padding theories. Between the Blazers and Nets, the Nets have three of the top five scorers. Just so you know. Wanna factor in assists? That is a big part of analyzing a PG, his assist numbers. LOL @ Harris having inflated stats. Again, by your standings theory, that would make Roy better than Wade. Outside of Carter and Brook Lopez, Harris doesn't have a whole lot to work with. \ O noez I in min0ritee foar opinyun!! Wat iz I gonn' doo. Translation: I don't give a shit what the other people think. I can't see who voted for what in the poll, so I'm not convinced that a bunch of the Blazer posters here didn't just jump over there and vote Roy in the poll. YOU ARE USING ALL-STAR GAME STATISTICS TO HELP VERIFY YOUR CASE. THAT IS THE PEAK OF IDIOCY. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? ALL-STAR GAMES DON'T MEAN SHIT, THE STATISTICS RECORDED IN THOSE GAMES DON'T MEAN SHIT. ALLEN IVERSON AND JOE JOHNSON COMBINED FOR 2 POINTS IN THE ALL-STAR GAME. THOSE STATS DON'T TELL YOU ANYTHING, NOBODY GIVES A SHIT. You played the 'Jerryd Bayless pwned Devin Harris' card, not the 'Brandon Roy pwned Devin Harris' card. See the difference, and why I called you out on faulty reasoning?
Wallace... 16.2 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 2.6 rpg, in 37mpg. He gets to the lin 6.3 times per game and shoots it at 80%. Jefferson... 18 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.3 apg in 36mpg. He gets to the line 5.9 times per game and shoots it at 79%. Take that for what it is.
Jefferson is an above average defender as well. I'm just not sold on Wallace right now, which is odd because I was all fired up to see him in Portland about a week ago. Meh, guess we'll just have to wait and see. Any of the four would be OK with me. You won't see me blasting a trade that includes any of them as the incoming centerpiece.
Well then lets factor scoring, scoring efficiency, assists, rebounds and PER and see who comes out on top, ok? I mean, in stats Roy is better in everything but assists pretty much, he is the leader of a team who has a much better record, he outplayed his head-to-head, he has more achievements in a shorter amoutn of time, he is younger, etc... I understand that you think Harris is better but other than an arguement that says "I just think Harris is better than Roy" it is hard for you to back your claims up other than list excuses why it took him so long to break out and that certian things don't matter when judging a player. But i'm sorry, i'm finished arguing. It was fun and I only took this on because I haven't had an arguement for a while, but I can't contribute to hijacking this thread. *I edited this post, btw* Again, Minstrel I agree with you.
