Vince Carter 2009 = Scottie Pippen 1999?

Interesting comparison. Pippen was more of a floor and locker room leader than Vince is. But with Roy being our leader, I guess we wouldnt need Vince to play that role.

 

Pippen was the beginning of the end for our consecutive playoff appearances record.

His ego destroyed the team's chemistry and handcuffed the coaches.

Please let us learn from our mistakes and not repeat them.

 

Anyone know of a link for tonight's game?

Justin.tv does not appear to have the game tonight?


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Many thanks from British Columbia (former PDX'er)

 

I agree, say no to Scotty for RLEC. VC on the other hand would be sweet!

 

Anyone who says pippen was a declining role player when he came to Portland, go back and watch some of those games. I watched a few of the playoff games the year he came a few months ago and had completely forgotten how freaking good he was. He made our team.

 

This is true. Pippen would solve our need for a PG and SF in one fell swoop. You can't say that about a whole lot of players.

 

You said it yourself, PER doesn't mention defense, and Pippens defense was top notch.

 

Pippen won games 5 and 6 of the 2000 WCF damn near by himself. One of the reasons for the Game 7 Choke was that Scottie had nothing left in the tank for the stretch run.

 

Actually, I was thinking it reminded me of Adrian Dantley trade to the Pistons. He was 30-32 (86-89) when he was with the Pistons. Won a ring with them. Got traded to Dallas in the Mark Aguirre trade.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dantlad01.html

 

It's not unfair, but not conclusive. It depends on how much defense makes up the gap in productivity. Pippen's defense was rare in that it wasn't just man defense but he had a significant positive effect on the team defense. That's generally the province of very good defensive big men.

After Game Two of the WCF in 2000, Phil Jackson said something to the effect of "I said that Pippen couldn't guard our whole team and I was right...just Kobe, Shaq and Harper." Bit of an exaggeration, obviously, but a pretty nice indication of Pippen's overall effect on defense.

 

He also had busted fingers in Game 7, on his shooting hand.

 

I'm more interested in comparing the situations than the players. When the Blazers traded for Pippen, they already had a veteran playoff tested team. They were looking to make improvements that would get them to a championship within a year or two. So Pippen was a good acquisition.

Today, they are a team that is struggling to get into the playoffs after a longtime absence. They have a onetime chance to acquire an impact player that can be with them for the next 5-6 years. Carter is not the answer in this situation.

 

It's funny... I was thinking the same thing.... Carter could be to this team, what Pippen was to that team.