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  1. free_lafrentz

    free_lafrentz Member

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    Also true.
     
  2. MrJayremmie

    MrJayremmie Well-Known Member

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    I was waiting for you to show up. Great post... you got your caps lock on there, you got the bolded parts, and you end with your line "Thats the ... truth". Excellent post.
     
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    SodaPopinski Tigers love pepper

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    Salary cap and luxury tax threshold is going down this offseason. The NBA sent out a memo yesterday to all GM's. That means our cap space, because of the Darius Miles fiasco, will be minimal on draft day.

    The RLEC is at its maximum value TODAY. And it's a sure thing. Waiting to do something on draft day is a hope and a prayer.

    -Pop
     
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    KP has a history of getting basically zero veteran help on draft day or any other day. Some of us don't want that to continue.
     
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    Oh man, here we go.

    I was waiting for Mixum to make an appearance on deadline day. And man, you sure didn't disappoint. Holy crap. Funny thing in this post is its overwhelmingly redundant when related to his other 900 or so posts. There's nothing new here, nothing we haven't already heard or reworded 500 different times.

    :smiley-chainsaw::smiley-love::deadhorse::shitstorm:
     
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    cough mj cough
     
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    We have draft picks to deal now as well, so that argument is null.

    We also give instant relief now because RLEC is paid by insurance. And by doing it now we can help a team get under the tax level.

    Again. EVERYTHING we will have on draft day, we have now. PLUS RLEC
     
  8. SodaPopinski

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    We actually have more now, excluding the RLEC. See my previous post. Salary cap and tax threshold are going DOWN in the offseason. That means

    a) We won't realize as much cap flexibility in the offseason as some people here are thinking; and

    b) Cash-strapped owners are even more motivated today to make a move, since that news from the NBA came down yesterday.

    -Pop
     
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    You are 100% correct.


    I don't get why other don't understand this.


    Epic failure by KP if nothing happens.
     
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    you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink

    If they let RLEC, Frye, and Ruffin come off their own cap, KP will be armed with about 10M of capspace this offseason. This represents virtually the same sort of instant savings to other teams interested in clearing capspace via a lopsided deal. Portland can clear even more space by renouncing the rights to Blake and/or Outlaw.

    It won't be a "failure of epic proportions" if nothing happens today. It will be a bit disappointing that nobody offered KP what he wanted, but he's right to be patient. If he's to use RLEC now it should only be for the right guy because other similar opportunities will be around shortly. I'd sure rather pass on Richard Jefferson today then close the door on adding a Josh Childress as a FA or making a more desirable lopsided deal. Tough economic times will still be facing clubs come this summer and Portland could still be offering serious relief.

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    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Seems to me that if none of the three teams blink, then at the last minute KP just goes with the best deal available.

    I mean, if Wallace + Nazr is available right now, it'll still be available a half hour before the deadline, right?

    That's the beauty of Pritchard's current hand, and the reason he's smart to hold off until the last minute.

    He's on Ebay right now with three competitors all bidding against each other for his goods. You don't close an Ebay auction 2 hours early because you think you got all the money you're going to get. You close it when the auction is over.
     
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    fail!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Wrong. That may have been true if the salary cap was going up, as has been the trend over the last several years. But the NBA announced yesterday the cap is going down. You can expect that number to be about half of that.

    That's like holding a stock until its value is at its highest, not selling it, then waiting three months to sell it when it's worth about half.

    People make those kinds of mistakes in the stock market all the time. But the difference here is that we know our "stock" (RLEC) is at it's highest value today, and we know it's value will go substantially down this offseason.

    -Pop
     
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    Man, as much as I hate to say it, MIXUM may be correct if a tad loud. After last night's "win" I can't help but feel the team is fading down the stretch. The last 8 games or so have been horrible. This was the part of the season where Portland was supposed to make a push and they are barely beating shitty teams at home. If Portland plays like they did last night (and against GS and NY and the Thunder twice) against a playoff contender, they will get beat like a rented mule. To ensure they make the playoffs this year, they should make a deal.

    If they don't make a deal and don't make the playoffs this year, the fault will fall on both KP and Nate. At least one of those two will have to go.
     
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    That would be Nate. KP built this team.
     
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    link please

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    This is not exactly right because the cap goes down for all the teams - so all the other teams that have cap-room will have less to spend as well - and the price paid for free-agents will just go down all around.

    The difference between the stock market and the NBA market is that when the stock-market falls - housing or other goods do not follow suit immediately. This is different in the NBA - when the cap falls - it falls for everyone and the price of the available goods (free agents or people on the trading block) falls down with it immediately.
     
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    Huh? What do you mean one of those two? No way Paul Allen would even think of letting KP go, that is just silly to say.
     
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    They don't announce the salary cap numbers until the summer, but Stern mentioned that the cap will probably go down in 2009 over the all-star break.

    Ed O.
     
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    Why would you hate to say it. In the last couple of days Mixum only been a 4 out of 10 on the Mixum Scale.
    No worries, he'll return to his former self soon enough.
     

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