Abbott says no trades

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  1. TripTango

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    Careful -- you're taking these rumors as gospel. Did you overhear the phone call where this offer was made by the Bobcats?
     
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    Sorry guys, but if we seriously had the Bobcats offer us Wallace and Nazr for Batum and LaFrentz... I really can't see any conceivable reason why we turned it down. There's no way we could do better than that this summer.

    We've all heard it around the league, and now I'm worried that KP is overvaluing our players. It almost seems like Pritchard won't do a deal unless he Pritchslaps, and that can't always be the case. Sometimes you have to give to get.
     
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    Ignorant and inaccurate, whatever happens.
     
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    So has Chris Wallace, but you wouldn't see me trading Pau Gasol for nothing. :devilwink:
     
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    No, it's not. You are basing your judgments on FLAWED INFORMATION. Unless you have some kind of inside line (in which case, I have some advice for you!), you have NO IDEA what offers are on the table. Calling "failure" without knowing what's going on behind those closed doors is asinine.

    End of story.
     
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    There will still be cap space, however. Just trading away RLEC for the hell of it makes no sense to me unless the team received a lopsided offer in exchange.
     
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    Right now we have RLEC ($12M). This Summer we should have $7M cap + $3M TE + very tradeable contracts with good youg players.

    Now Wallace costs you RLEC + Batum + taking a bad contract. This Summer, you can get Wallace without adding Batum and without taking on Nazr. If you can be patient, the Summer deal is much better in the long run.
     
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    You are being just as asinine with your extreme left point of view, as opposed to their extreme right point of view.
     
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    You're totally missing the point. I'm not arguing that the FO is magical and perfect. I'm saying that it's impossible to judge them on INACTION without knowing what the stakes were! We can judge Chris Wallace on his ACTIONS because they became public, but we just don't know what deals are actually on the table until one gets finalized. All these rumors and whispers are just that.
     
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    Oh? And what point of view is that?
     
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    KP, aren't you supposed to be working the phones until noon? ;)
     
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    Him saying that none of us know what KP is being offered is "asinine"? Seems more "factual" to me. :dunno:
     
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    But one of the appealing aspects of RLEC is the insurance covering his contract, which you lose this summer. The Blazers aren't the only team with an expiring contract, but they are one of the only teams with an expiring contract that is covered by insurance.
     
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    You can't use a TE with a player in a trade. So in reality we have more now with RLEC and Outlaw than we would if we let him expire.

    And who's to say what you can get Wallace for this summer. I would assume the Bob's would be more motivated to deal for RLEC because it saves them money now.......And this summer
     
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    Nah -- I'm letting Charlotte and New Jersey stew for awhile. (Or is that "bake"?) :ghoti:
     
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    That our point of view can't possibly be the correct one, simply because we are not in the same position of KP, we are not professionals, and we don't have "all the information."
     
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    Frye is going to be useless as a trade piece this summer... right now he's an expiring deal of a decent size. This summer we'd have to deal with cap holds and/or re-signing him at a higher price.

    Further, the salary cap is probably going to go down. In order to get cap space of any significant amount above the MLE, we'll probably have to waive Outlaw and/or Blake...

    Our hands will not be tied this summer, but this is almost certainly a high water mark in terms of assets we have.

    Ed O.
     
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    Great. Then it's the Blazers who are saving money on that contract right now, and they will have even more cashflow after keeping RLEC until it expires. Plus insurance is paying Ruffin's puny contract. Seems fiscally sound to me.
     
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    Haha, funny

    I think the word you are looking for char.
     
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    Could be in normal economic times, but these aren't normal times, and the biggest asset the Blazers have has an apartment at the top of the Rose Garden.
     

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