Abbott says no trades

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    So my question is; if we do nothing today, and then follow that up with very little to nothing this summer, will people be outraged? I realize that KP has an awesome track record in the offseason, but I think that he is really passing up a great opportunity.

    From what I've read or heard over the last few months, it seems like KP is overvaluing his players, that he is too close to his roster, and that his demands are unrealistic.
     
  2. Ed O

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    Agreed.

    It's ENTIRELY possible that Portland is getting offered nothing but shit for the RLEC and our young pieces. If that is the case, inaction is the best call.

    I find it hard to believe that's the case, though, and would bet that it's more a matter of how much a poster (vs. the FO) values a player like Outlaw or Sergio.

    *shrug*

    Ed O.
     
  3. TripTango

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    And what's your point of view, exactly? That we should have accepted that RUMORED trade from Charlotte that MAY OR MAY NOT EXIST? You're right -- you are a trading genius and should apply for a GM position immediately. You will clearly clean up on every rumored trade that comes around the horn, and win many championships with your fictional team of reported all-stars.
     
  4. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

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    Hey, one way to figure out who KP is when he posts is to eliminate anyone posting today; KP doesn't have the time!
     
  5. Ed O

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    PA still needs to follow the rules, though. If the salary cap dips $4m or $5m we won't have much more wiggle room than teams over the cap unless we're willing to get rid of Frye, Outlaw and Blake.

    Ed O.
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    Heck, if all else fails, offer the RLEC to NO for Chandler. Unless that ankle injury is career ending, that gives us 3 servicable centers and a nice bargaining chip in future trade talks.
     
  7. Reep

    Reep Well-Known Member

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    [SPECULATION] But the whole market is going down now. I could buy a house now and get a good deal because the market is down. However, I could also wait a year because the housing market is likely to be even worse. I may even have less assets on hand in the future, but the cost of the house will also go down so it ends up being a wash.

    There is no way to know for sure what the cap situation and NBA economy will be this Summer. But, there is a reasonable chance that buying prices will continue to drop. So, a depletion of our asset value may not be a problem.[/SPECULATION]
     
  8. Ed O

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    I will be disappointed. Not outraged, though.

    I can understand that position, but "what we read and hear" isn't always factual.

    Ed O.
     
  9. TripTango

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    P.S. Wait, wait, lemme get this straight. You are calling ME asinine for pointing out that it's impossible to judge decisions accurately without all of the information?

    Whatever dude. :crazy:
     
  10. WWBRoyD

    WWBRoyD Psychic Guru of Confucius

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    The trade exception can not used with any other type of transaction. It can only be used on a 3 MIL or less transaction by itself.
     
  11. Ghost Pepper

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    Outside of Gerald Wallace or Butler, I don't see anything I love that much that I would mind not making a trade for. Vince is to old, Jefferson team wants more back than he's worth, and the rest are just average.


    Doing nothing may make the most sense with what's out there!
     
  12. Tortimer

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    Hell that isn't really that bad of an idea.
     
  13. e_blazer

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    Well, unless they're really done. :)
     
  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    I want a deal, but I want it to be one of the deals that I like. Without knowing the offers, I don't see the point in jumping off of the Hawthorne if the deadline passes. If the team was on the outside of the playoffs looking in, perhaps I'd be more upset if nothing happens.
     
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    Hmm, "keebs3" suddenly makes an appearance after it is leaked that the team won't be trading. :ghoti:
     
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    I think the term more or less would be is frustrated, not outraged. I understand everybody is hungry to start winning again with all of the years of abuse we took having the "JailBlazers" as our team, getting our teeth kicked in every year, issues off the court, laughing stock of the league. Including myself. After years of that, you want to see the team take advantage of golden opportunities to move forward. When you see your team drop the ball, it just adds to the frustration that has piled up over the years. More shit on the pile if you will.
    :devilwink:
     
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    Oh, I know it doesn't change the cap situation, but it does make taking on contracts less of an issue in a trade. The same bad teams desperate for cash right now aren't going to suddenly be flush this summer.
     
  19. BrianFromWA

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    Funny, KP said himself to my face (and not through Canzano, or Abbott, or Quick) that RLEC was "perhaps the best expiring contract in history". Maybe he thinks he'll be better off using the "much less than 12M" that we'll have in cap space, without the benefit of MLE, BAE, or veteran's exceptions than using RLEC now to get Carter or RJ or Wallace or Butler or something. That doesn't mean someone's ignorant for thinking it's a failure to upgrade our team NOW in order to push it for the summer.

    All this doesn't matter, though. It's patently dumb to take what happens at 9:45am on Deadline Day as truth. Last year, trades were cycling in AFTER THE DEADLINE, b/c there was a backlog of complicated deals that got done in the last half hour that needed to be looked at.

    And the best PR campaign the team has done is get people to buy into 2-3 years more of failure to compete for championships b/c we're "growing the right way". Detroit's made 5 ECFs in a row since trading for their "missing piece". We could start much sooner on our dynastic trip by upgrading our perimeter defense and/or SF play.
     
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    That is true.

    I guess while I admit that the "demand" might be greater (might teams might be more desperate, and more willing to give value), our "supply" will be lower (since we will have lost some of the RLEC asset, the Frye contract, etc.).

    Ed O.
     

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