Poll: How do you feel?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by noknobs, Feb 19, 2009.

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How do you feel?

  1. Horrible! Losing faith in Pritchard.

    6.6%
  2. Blew a great opportunity. Probably means we don’t make the playoffs.

    10.5%
  3. Probably means we don’t make the playoffs, but I’m glad we didn’t give away our future.

    1.3%
  4. Disappointed, but we’re still looking good. We’ll make our move in the summer.

    44.7%
  5. Good! Bake that shit.

    3.9%
  6. In KP I trust. Don’t make trades just to trade.

    23.7%
  7. I still refuse to believe we didn’t make a trade.

    5.3%
  8. I think he's a dirty whore.

    3.9%
  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Also, I happen to think that our biggest need is at PG, and there just weren't any good ones available in trade. The best veteran PGs out there who might actually have been available (i.e., not Paul, Williams or Harris) were Andre Miller, Mike Bibby and maybe even Jason Kidd. But all are FAs anyway, so our "magic silver bullet" wouldn't work on them. HOWEVER, Miller might be had as a FA this summer. (Let's hope there are better options, but still.)
     
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    If you DON'T value those players that much, then there always other teams to support. C'mon - it's the rational option!
     
  3. VivaRipCity

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    hopefully in the next 24 hours the blazers will release there justification for this move. obviously, they were not trading just to trade, So lets just wait for the dust to settle and the questions will get answered. i'm still pulling for the blazer's although its pretty obvious that as for this season we got a really rough road ahead. i'm seeing us as a borderline team, we'll either be miss out on the playoffs again...or squeak in by the hairs on batum's chinny chin chin. 7th or 8th seed at best.
     
  4. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Hopefully Sessions will get a nice offer from the Blazers that the Bucks aren't able to match due to finances.
     
  5. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Great! we can go for Andre Miller this season for the same amount as the MLE will probably be.

    WTF. If we would have made a trade we would have had our MLE this offseason to sign a backup PF or do whatever we so please along with the acquired player.
     
  6. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I think people are jumping to unwarranted conclusions about Pritchard being unwilling to trade players. Just because he didn't make a deal doesn't tell us anything when we don't know what deals were offered or the reasons behind turning them down. It strikes me as the common fan desire to see any disappointing result in the worst light possible.

    Also, it'll be $5 million if he just lets LaFrentz and Frye expire (and the cap goes down). If he also lets Blake and Outlaw go, he can push the cap space to $13 million. That's enough to facilitate a lopsided trade for an excellent player or to sign players like Childress and/or Sessions.
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Bake it!
     
  8. JFizzleRaider

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    While giving up two of our assets (Outlaw and Blake). Seems semi-lateral to me.

    If we had made a deal, we would not only have an acquired player (I bet you we could have gotten at least one of Carter, Wallace, Jefferson or Butler while giving up say Raef + Batum), we would have our MLE for the offseason
     
  9. Master Shake

    Master Shake young phoenix

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    Me? Are you asking me why I would be such a fucking idiot? Well, if I wasn't a mod I would tell you to go fuck yourself cause I didn't do that shit. I was just pointing it out. But if that's not directed at me, than I don't know. I just find it kinda funny lol.
     
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    I feel like crap. I feel like I pulled the hottest chick out of a bar, got her home, got her naked and then she tells me no. That's how I feel. In the morning I may be glad nothing happened, but right now I want to throw the chick out the window.
     
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    lol well all that build up... for this. Time to step out of the house. Pretty big let down in my opinion. Not understanding the financial implications very well, I still feel like its somewhat unfair to the fans that we are supposed to continue to stay pumped about a mediocre team. We need to make a move toward becoming a contender....we're baking a F-ing cake here, not a F-ing Turkey...lol
     
  12. Webster's Dictionary

    Webster's Dictionary I am Iron Man

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    I feel like this whole cloud of trade deadline now passes over the team and we go on a huge run! Who's with me!?!
     
  13. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Two marginal assets. Both are decent players, but reserves on a good team. Childress is a good starter, IMO, and Sessions is already a solid player and young enough to become significantly more than that.

    And if the cap space is used in a trade for a very good player, then it's not lateral at all...it's a consolidation move.

    Hard to talk about what we "could have" gotten since we don't know. And I'd have been far more upset to lose Batum for a marginal player like Jefferson or a short-term player like Carter. I bet we could not have gotten Butler for that. Wallace, possibly, but all we have on that is gossip columnists' claims.

    The MLE is significantly less valuable. It can't be used in trade and it can't be combined with other things to have more "space" to sign someone (as Portland can add to this space by renouncing Blake or Outlaw).

    I'd have loved to acquire Wallace or Carter (or Butler, obviously, though I doubt he was ever really available), if the price had been inexpensive. If the price wasn't cheap, then it's certainly much more complex than "No trade = bad."
     
  14. Webster's Dictionary

    Webster's Dictionary I am Iron Man

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    I'm disappointed we didn't land Wallace or Butler (everyone else I could do without) but am I disappointed in KP or our front office? I have NO F'ING IDEA. Why? Cause I have absolutely NO IDEA what offers were made, what those two teams wanted for those players. Hell, for all we know, they may have been asking for BRANDON ROY or LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE. What the hell do we know? We sit here and read 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand reports and some rumors that are flat out made up and think "Oh wow! We can have this player for an expiring contract and spare change?!?"

    What is the worst deal you can think of that you would still do? What if our offers were worse than that? What if all this was talk to try to drive up the price from other teams but really the financial situation was blown WAY OUT OF PROPORTION? What if teams weren't actually willing to give up their stars for just savings? What if NJ was asking for Outlaw, RLEC, Bayless, Rudy and a pick for Carter? Would you do that? What if they wanted Lamarcus Aldridge and RLEC? I wouldn't do either of those, especially if I actually had to pay the guy. That's a huge amount of money for a breaking down, no D playing star.

    So, while I know it won't, I hope this will change some of your minds to realize WE KNOW NOTHING.

    Sorry for the cross post.
     
  15. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    The MLE is another thing we could use this offseason to get a backup PF or fill out any holes. I don't see how thats a bad thing at all.

    Cap space is a consolidation move that gives us nothing in return ( in the form of Blake or Outlaw)
     
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    We don't know NOTHING. We know that with the best trade asset Portland has had in a very long time nothing was done. KP is paid to make good deals. If he can't get something going with what we had then I don't see much likelihood he will ever be able to.

    The best players can make plays out of the nothing. The best coaches can get a collection of shit to the playoffs. The best GMs pull deals out their hat.

    Our GM didn't do shit.
     
  17. JFizzleRaider

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    Paxson is a great comparison. and we all know how his "baking" turned out
     
  18. Rastapopoulos

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    But if we'd given up those two assets in a trade for Gerald Wallace, I somehow doubt you'd be complaining.
     
  19. HailBlazers

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    :lol:

    Man you must have been drinking heavily with everyone else who thought a trade was immanent.
     
  20. Rastapopoulos

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    Enough with this "best trade asset". RLEC isn't even the best trade asset the BLAZERS have (that would be Roy then Aldridge or Oden). It's only a "best trade asset" if teams with players we want are ready to dump them JUST for salary relief. Do we know this was going to happen? Everybody got all worked up thinking that every team was just throwing good stuff overboard in a panic. Where's the evidence? Other teams had expiring contracts (look at Cleveland with Wally) and they couldn't get anything done. So PROVE that RLEC WAS a great asset.

    I bet you miss Whitsitt.
     

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