Summer 2009

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  1. 1 Eye Jack

    1 Eye Jack Well-Known Member

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    I agree I think Sessions is the target. Great young up and coming PG.
     
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    Sessions and Lee I would think are FA Targets.
     
  3. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I've been actually using $5 million as my base figure, which is even lower than the one you're using. The difference between that cap space and the MLE is that Portland can expand the cap space by renouncing Blake and can expand it further by renouncing Outlaw. That can't be done with the MLE. Further, the cap space can be used in trade (by taking back more salary than Portland sends out)...that also can't be done with the MLE.

    So, there's a fairly large difference.
     
  4. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

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    Where do you come up with $13 million? Is that if we renounce Channing Frye?

    We're going to also going to need to make a move to get a backup PF, unless SBO can handle it all....that's 4-5 milli out the door...unless TROUT is really going to play backup 4 from now on......
     
  5. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

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    I think Lee will be out of our price range.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    We realistically only have about $6-$7. So the answer is we can't do much without giving up a TON of talent. The free lunch is over.
     
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    When does Francis come off?
     
  8. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

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    that's what i was thinking.
     
  9. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

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    end of the season. so this number includes all the "flexibility" from his huge contract coming off as well as LaFrentz...we've had to live with those two fucking contracts for the last 2 years and now all we get is shit from it. same goes with Miles too...we can't trade that away...we would have been better keeping him on the roster. yuck.
     
  10. GoBlazersGo

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    I'd probably go after Ramon Sessions and, either, Trevor Ariza or Josh Childress... if it were up to me. :devilwink:
     
  11. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Based on normal increases in the cap, letting LaFrentz expire and renouncing Frye and Diogu would open up about $10 million in cap space. But Stern said that the cap may actually drop a bit, so I'm cutting that number in half, to $5 million.

    Renouncing Blake would free up $4 million more in cap space. Renouncing Outlaw would free up another $4 million in cap space. That adds up to around $13 million.

    Obviously, renouncing Blake and Outlaw costs the team some value, so it would have to be done only if they can get a return on that extra money that's superior to Blake and/or Outlaw. The point is, they have the option to do this if, for example, Charlotte decides that $13 million of immediate savings would be great and they'll give us Gerald Wallace.
     
  12. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Wouldn't that essentially be the same as making a trade? I mean, we'd lose Blake and Outlaw, and gain a SF/PG.
     
  13. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Add in team options on Blake (4 million) and Travis (3.6 million) and the cap figure can climb dramatically.
     
  14. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

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    I think the chances of us renouncing Blake and/or Outlaw are at 0%. It sounds cool on teh interwebs, but its not a very realistic scenario.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    It's the same thing to Portland. But if the other team, that Portland wants to trade with, prefers cash savings to Blake or Outlaw, then having the option to renounce those players gives Portland more flexibility to make a trade. If the other team wants Outlaw, then Portland can simply choose not to renounce him and package him with, say, $9 million in cap savings.
     
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    Renouncing Outlaw is unlikely. Blake is eminently possible. It entirely depends on what the options are. If Portland can net Sessions? Goodbye Blake.
     
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    I just can't see it happening even if we can get sessions. Blake is a very apt point guard, not old...well liked in the community. I just can't imagine KP being that much of a dick to him for the second time....
     
  18. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Sure, but then we also have the option of trading other spare parts (Sergio, etc.) for another player.

    I wouldn't be shocked to see the team waive Travis or Blake, get one free agent acquisition, make one lopsided trade, and then use their trade exception to get another team's first round pick and try to get a legit backup power forward that way (or maybe finally bring Freeland over?)

    Lots of options moving forward.
     
  19. J_Ray

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    Childress signed a 3yr/$30-$33 million contract...and he just tore his ACL this season, so not sure what his status would be going into next year since those injuries linger for at least a year.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Being a dick to him? So do you feel the team should hold onto Frye, also, because he's a good guy and contributes to the community with his blog?

    Ultimately, I think Pritchard will make moves based on what's best for the franchise. There's nothing dickish about that. Blake wasn't told he was a Blazer for life. He's here because Portland felt he'd be useful and because he felt their offer was the best one for him. Once either side doesn't feel that way, and there are no contractual obligations, there's nothing remotely unethical or mean about severing the relationship.
     

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