The lie here is from Quick. Nowhere does KP mention ANY player's name. Suns probably offered Shaq for Roy, LaMarcus and Greg, along with Raef.
So you don't think Amare's attitude had anything to do with the factors surrounding a deal? It all factors in the end. Was it the deal breaker? Probably not, but if he didn't consider that Amare's been a selfish baby in the past, then KP wasn't doing his due diligence.
If any player's attitude could have a detrimental effect on a team, it would be Stoudemire. You managed to pick the worst statement upon which to take your weirdly moralistic stand. Amare Stoudemire is one of the easiest players about whom to believe that disruptive attitude would be a factor. He said "culture and core talent." He didn't want to give up a top Blazers player for a player who might be a bit better but also might be disruptive. But your constant war on "Pritchard lies" is just strange. He's a GM, which means part of his job is marketing, spin and disinformation. There isn't a GM (or politician) who doesn't use all those tools. Calling them liars (for that) makes just as much sense as saying a basketball player who uses a head fake is a liar. Some people's jobs involve misdirection.
If the Blazers turned down a trade for Amare that didn't involve B-Roy or Greg Oden, this would have to go down as a massive blunder for Kevin Pritchard. For example, you know Outlaw/Webster weren't going anywhere in the trade. Same with Blake and Pryzbrilla. Realistically, the most Phoenix was asking, had to be something like LaMarcus Aldridge, Rudy Fernandez, Jerryd Bayless, and Raef Lafrentz for Amare Stoudemire, Jason Richardson, Louis Amudson, and Matt Barnes. Yeah, that's a lot to give up talent wise, but you're still left with: PG-Steve Blake/Sergio Rodriguez SG-Brandon Roy/Jason Richardson SF-Jason Richardson/Travis Outlaw/Nicolas Batum PF-Amare Stoudemire/Michael Ruffin C- Greg Oden/Joel Pryzbrilla If you can pair Brandon Roy and Amare Stoudemire, while having a role playing point guard, some fill ins at small forward, and two defensive centers, I think you have to take that shot. And I'd imagine Phoenix asked for a lot less than the package I posted.
Where do you come up with this shit? Show me one place where that deal was ever considered except in your own mind.
The Blazers culture is the sum of the current players on the roster. Any changes would change that culture. If the deal was LMA for Amare, KP may have seen losing LMA as a real hit to the culture the team has built over the past couple of seasons and not worth messing with. Regardless of whether Aldridge isn't quite as good as Amare.
wrong blake and joel, correct. outlaw or webster was in every trade rumor blazers would be incredibly dumb to give up that much and there was no indication that anything of the sort was talked about. a team that plays even less defense than the current team. great. i don't. you imagine a lot of things. i thought amare was a done deal to be in chicago?
Once they start getting those extensions, and see what the other guys are making, the culture will change.
Kerr and KP are contradicting each other - one or both is definitely distorting the truth. Why do you think it was KP who was telling the truth?
But they can't both be lying in this situation. John Paxson said in his press conference that they knew that Amare wasn't going to get traded 5-6 days before the deadline. That would be during allstar weekend when Phoenix made the coaching change. Paxson's story fits with Kerr's story.
why not? kerr says they were just listening to offers, pritchard says they were close to a deal. reality very easily could be between those two.
Listening to offers is different than the Suns agreeing to an offer and the Blazers turning it down, like KP insinuated.
Aren't you the guy who keeps going on about the Bulls blowing what they had... You know, when they signed Gordon to destroy that team.... And how Portland is the next Chicago? Now you want Portland to ship off half of the team for one guy and a bunch of other shitty players basically blowing the whole thing up. I mean JESUS CHRIST! Phoenix are in 9th with him.... We are in 4th without him
If KP turned down getting Chris Paul for Shavlik Randolph, it could only be considered a complete and utter failure on his part. In conclusion, Pritchard is a liar and a blowhard and the worst GM ever.
your answer doesn't jibe with your quote. Rozza 5 doesn't say it was KP who was telling the truth, he/she points out we don't know what the truth is. STOMP
Exactly! I don't know what the truth is therefore I do not conclude someone is lying. I also think it's silly to assume KP would OR SHOULD BE 100% forthright. He's supposed to keep the upper hand. He's supposed to keep secrets. He's supposed to get the best deal avail. He's supposed to snoop around and find out what people are willing to give up... This is a giant poker game. This whole idea that he's supposed to be completely transparent is just absurd to me. I couldn't care less if he gives me every bit of information.
