I can see them dumping Ridnour on a team already under the cap for free which would basically nullify his 6.5 million in salary and would make giving Sessions the MLE a lateral salary move.
I believe you're wrong. Yes, he's a 2nd year RFA and he has early bird rights. He doesn't have to take a 2-year deal. Another team if under the cap can offer him more, just as Milwaukee can offer him a longer term than two years. Milwaukee though, because they're over the cap, can offer him only their mid-level exception with yearly increases of approx. 8%. Portland, or a team that's under the cap, can only offer him salary amounts equal to that of the mid-level exception for the first two years, but can offer a third year at a maximum starting rate to what that team could have offered assuming this rule wasn't in affect. Any additional years would be at 6.9% increases.
LOL'ed . . . that's more like it!!! Welcome back! Think how much better Blake could've been if he just sat for another 13 games and been tutored by Serg all that time! Scary!!!
Got back from the game, and it was a nice solid win. Good to see us just blow out the Clips early. Probably as enjoyable as that first quarter was trying to see Shavlik and Ruffin get aggressive, while Brandon, LaMarcus and Blake were busting up laughing on the bench whenever those two messed up. The Clips have basically given up on the season, too bad we have a loss to them in our belt.. argh.
So for example if Portland is $8M under the cap. We could offer a salary of $5.5M for the first, $5.8M for the second, and as much as $10.2 for the third, and $10.2 for the fourth (either guaranteed or a team option). Of course we wouldn't need to do this. Maybe a 3rd year at $7M and a team option for $8M would be more conservative.
Pretty cool! Thanks for the information, Crimson. So Portland could get Sessions...only Atlanta could prevent it.
Great win. Good teams dominate bad teams at home and that's what we did tonight. Great way to hit the road. Anyone else get tired of Rice calling Blake "Blakey"? Ugh.
That's is good info. I think maybe if we really wanted Sessions we might need to offer the 10.2 for the 3rd year if we want Milw and/or Atl not to match or offer more.
I think there are going to be other teams under the cap. I don't remember which. However I remember reading through the short list and only Atlanta could offer a) a starting position, b) a quality team, and c) more money than Milwaukee. This really only works for us though if we can get enough under the salary cap to gain the upper hand over Milwaukee. We'll have to face the fact that being under the cap by only $6M isn't going to likely get it done.
Milwaukee can not offer $10.2M. The most they could offer in the third year is between $6.3M and $6.5M depending on what the average salary is (mid-level exception).
Just got back from the game.... Did you guys notice Blake had a HUGE game?! Wow! Was I the only person that saw that? Nice win, though. We have to take care of the shitty teams, and that's what we did. Very happy.
Yeah, well, I was at that game as well, and we had just come off the most difficult opening to a season in NBA history. We were dog tired during that game. That's all. They've been our bitches in the last two, one being down there. No worries.
Milwaukee can only offer that much in the 3rd year, but that doesn't mean they can match an offer like ours (with the big 3rd year raise). With the MLE being the maximum we can offer in the 1st year, and Milwaukee just having to fit the 1st year of the contract into their cap, they can match any possible outside offer by using their full MLE. Or at least that's how I read this part of Larry Coon's FAQ: For the team making this offer, this contract would count for $11.0 million (i.e., the average salary in the contract) of team salary in each of the five seasons if they sign the player. If the player's prior team matches the offer and keeps the player, then the actual salary in each season counts as team salary. The player's original team is allowed to use any available exception (e.g., the Mid-Level or the Early-Bird) to match the offer.
Atlanta first has to deal with Marvin Williams. They have committed to $40.8M before factoring in Williams. They won't renounce him, so they'll either have to add a) $7.3M one-year tender, b) between $4M to $10M in starting salary if a new contract is negotiated, or c) a cap hold of $21.9M until they figure out what they want to do. Seeing how the negotiations went last year with Childress, Atlanta is probably going to fuck this up. I really see Portland as the best scenario. We have our own issues (Frye, possibly two more first rounders, three second rounders, whether to bring our Euros over, and team options for Blake/Outlaw), but I have a lot more faith in our management team than theirs.
It sounds to me like they must match the average salary. IF they do that, after that their team salary is calculated using each season's salary, not the average.
Right. That's what I'm saying, at least I believe. Milwaukee's max amount offered is a long term deal of no more than five years starting at around $5.5 with annual raises of 8% - in summary - a max 5-year contract of $32M. Portland could barely beat that if we even have just $6M in cap space. We could blow it out of the water if we simply renounce Channing Frye.
Congrats to Blake for his record setting quarter. If anybody needs any more proof of Baron Davis being a quitter, then I don't know what would satisfy their needs. Besides being a good game against a bad team, it still can help build confidence. 2 games in a row with both Roy and Aldridge bringing the wood, hopefully it will establish a pattern for out on the road. I am looking forward to competition against western conference playoff level competition to see where they Blazers are at.
