Player A is better then player B

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  1. Nitro1118

    Nitro1118 BBW Elite Member

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    I'm not trying to make a legitmate arguement. I hate Ray Allen, so I put Redd over him. Period. Not trying to be legit or serious, I just think they are very similar and my hate pushes Redd over him.And Wade is better than Bron. Better defender, better FG %, shows up in clutch. He also has carried Heat through playoff runs and games.
     
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    We don't care who you hate, I hate the Mavericks but that doesn't mean I'm going to say that Chris Wilcox is better than Dirk Nowitzki.
     
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    No, it isn't like i think Ray Allen is better, I think they are 2 very equal players. Both fantastic 3 point shooters, I think Redd is a better all around scorer, and I think it could go either way. But my bias just makes that equal turn into Redd's favor. I think Ray is severely overrated, and that he isn't the player everyone makes him out to be.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Mar 15 2006, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>OOO this is gonna be fun.T-Mac 2002-2003 > Kobe 2005-2006Yao > ShaqDWade > LeBronPaul Pierce > Vince CarterMichael Redd > Ray AllenKobe in clutch > Melo in clutchJason Richardson's windmill > Dominique's windmillI'll think of more...</div>wrongpossibly right but ppl are just hyped on yao because of his 2nd half playwrongrightwrongrightwrong
     
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    [quote name='Delonte4Prez' post='17542' date='Mar 16 2006, 04:52 PM']wrong[/quote]How so? T-Mac was averaging around 2 less PPG, but it was on 46% shooting to Kobe's 44% this year. T-Mac averaged 5.5 APG to Kobe's 4.6APG, and 6.5RPG to Kobe's 5.3RPG. T-Mac was averaging 2.6 TO's per game to KObe's 3.1 TO's per game. Lastly, they will both be in 8th seeds on overachieving teams that totally suck without them, but T-Mac pushed the #1 seeded Pistons to 7 games. I highly, highly doubt Kobe will do that to the Spurs.
    We are talking about the here and now, and he is averaging like 23PPG and 12RPG in past 2 months. He has carried Rockets despite crappy team and T-Mac on and off.
    Once again, Wade has better FG % than LeBron and takes less shots to get to only 3 PPG less than Bron, is better defender, bette rin clutch, and has carried teams through playoff series and games. This is definately a tossup and I see where you are coming from, but I think Wade has just proven more when it counts.
    Again, Allen is overrated, and both very equal IMO. Tossup again.
    Look at JRich's windmill in I think 2002 slam dunk contest, it was done more gracefully and just as Hard as Nique ever did it. I am not saying JRich is necassarily a better dunker, but I like his basic windmill better.
     
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    The Tmac one is debateable, Kobe did drop 81 so I think that pushes him over the edge. For now Yao may be better, we'll have to wait until the playoffs to see.Dwayne plays on a better team and doesn't have as complete a game as LeBron does.Ray Allen is a better and more versatile scorer than Redd is. He's also put up better numbers for longer.JRich did one windmill, amazing. Also, Josh Smith's in the dunk contest last year was perfect, you can't beat that.
     
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    [quote name='JustBlaze' post='17854' date='Mar 17 2006, 04:56 PM']The Tmac one is debateable, Kobe did drop 81 so I think that pushes him over the edge.[/quote]I don't think one game can put anyone over the edge. As you say, can be debated, I put T-Mac ahead because his #'s were overall better and what he did to #1 seeded Pistons in playoffs.
    Eh.
    In 2003-2004, he wasn't playing on a great team, and in playoffs single handedly pushed Miami through 1 round of playoffs and pushed #1 seeded Pacers to 6 games. Last year, with Shaq out form some of playoffs, he led his team through Washington. As for completeness of game, Dwyane is averaging 27/6.5/6.5 (or around that, too lazy to look up exact numbers) on a team that has much mroe firepower than Cavs do. So, it is amazing he is getting those #'s with ballhogs like Walker and JWilliams. He has better FG% than Bron and only averages 3PPG less, about as many assists and rebounds, is much better in clutch, has proven he can lead teams in playoffs, and better defender. Again, debatable, but I think Wade is better.
    Allen is a shooter. period. No versatility, except can expand his shooting range. I think Redd is better off dribble and can drive ball.
    Which Josh Smith windmill are you talking about, the one with Nique jersey, or one over Kenyon? One over Kenyon was much better, the one with Nique's jersey sucked. he didn't extend arms, and wasn't a true Nique windmill as he was sideways when doing it and idn't extend left arm before stuffing it through. When Richardson does windmills, whether it be in games or in dunk contests, he does it true Nique and VC style. He extends his arms fully, faces basket and not totally sideways, and stuffs it HARD.
     

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