Some Outlaw stuff to occupy your afternoon

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  1. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Thanks for your concern about my time.

    I'm sorry you feel it's "completely stupid" just b/c you're having a hard time refuting anything in it, even though you seem to disagree with it.

    The "ignore" button is easier than typing a couple of sarcastic sentences that don't contribute.

    If you don't want to discuss Outlaw, don't click on the thread. :dunno: Doesn't seem tough.

    The precedent I was hoping to set seems to have been lost on you. I took actual comment from actual readers asking questions about someone or something that they had a "belief" in. I then used actual data to challenge their opinion on it. Most won't change their minds either way, but it's something that should spur discussion. I'll go cartoon on you: "knowing is half the battle".
     
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    Fair enough. I think that the original premise (and the one you just brought up) is faulty. Sure, he's a "bench" player b/c he doesn't start. But he plays the 4th most minutes on the team. :dunno:

    I personally don't think the debate is played out, since there are still people that say he's a limited player, but that's ok, since he's a bench player. My position was that that's not ok, since he's getting 28mpg. Then I was asked to compare him with players more like him ("bench" SFs and PFs). So I did. If it didn't spark anything else for you to discuss/debate, then that's fine. Sorry to waste your time.
     
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    My inclination is that it would be beneficial to get Batum more minutes, based somewhat on "evaluating" and "baking". He's also a better player at the SF, IMO. His PER is comparable (13.6 to 13.8), his PER against is comparable (17.6 vs. 17.8). He's 5 years younger, 5 years less experienced. He's playing exclusively against starters (playing the first 7 minutes of each half), while Travis gets a decent amount of time against backups. He's a rookie that, if he progresses like many young players, develops better with more time and good coaching. If you were to say that Rudy's a better fit b/c he brings more to the table, or play Roy there b/c he can defend the position better, then I can agree and we can talk more about that.

    My point is...Travis should either develop his game more (especially defense and rebounding), which I haven't given up hope on; or have his minutes decreased. Nicolas' stats show that you're not going to get worse production at the SF position by taking TO's minutes away for NB.
     
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    I don't think they're doing flat-out terrible. Combined, they put up good numbers. But they're both just inconsistent game to game. You never know what you're going to get offensively from each especially Travis.
     
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    Doubtful. Jerome Kersey averaged in double digits for most of his career, and when he did that, he really did that, he didn't score 30 one game and 6 3 times in a row. He showed up in the teens every night. He didn't drop off in production until he started getting old.
     
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    Cough.



    (yeah I know it's just one game)
     
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    Were you expecting Nic's 3 point barrage tonight?

    Sure all players productivity varies and Travis may fluctuate even more then others, but the overall numbers in the link I provided suggest that the Blazers SF spot has been more productive then most. That Nic and Travis are just 20 and 24 years old and making relative peanuts... I can live with a little inconsistency.

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    One thing about Outlaw that came to me, as I was occupying my afternoon thinking about him, is that he seems to be someone who stays off of the injured list. That's not a bad trait, is it?
     
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    Not a bad trait at all.
     

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