Couple of Nice Games by Frye Lately

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  1. Ed O

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    Frye is playing better, but he's still a bad fit at the backup 4: a guy who doesn't rebound or get to the line much. When he's missing his jumper he's a backbreaker, but even when he's hitting it his game is still full of holes.

    I look forward to an upgrade at the backup four spot next year, or Oden returning so Frye can go back to the bench.

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    I concur. Hes having some nice games lately.
     
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    I definitely agree. IMO, he is horrid most times he goes in. If he doesn't hit his first jumper or two he is completely useless. He travels or turns it over some other way so many times it's really not needed for him to be on the court.

    Besides another scorer this offseason, this team definitely needs to add a banger/rebounder at the back up 4 this offseason, IMO.
     
  4. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Channing is the opposite of the Spurs. The Spurs win titles in odd numbered years. Channing sucks in odd numbered years. He's been pretty decent in even numbered years (including his rookie year when he played for Larry Brown), but this is one of those odd numbered years (as was the year Isiah coached the Knicks). So, whether or not the Blazers keep him, look for Channing to have a much better season next year.

    In terms of his rebounding, last year he was a significantly better rebounder (15.5 TRB%) than LaMarcus (12.8 TRB%). Last season, he also shot the ball a tiny bit better than LaMarcus and had a PER of 14.8 - pretty close to an average NBA starter - which isn't bad for a guy coming off the bench.

    This year, he's shooting the ball horribly, and while his rebounding is down, it's still about the same (11.8 TRB%) as LaMarcus (12.0 TRB%). While you can blame Channing (and LaMarcus) for that, it's also a by-product of playing next to two of the best rebounding centers in the league (Joel 22.4 TRB% and Oden 19.7 TRB).

    After the way Channing finished last season (16.2 PPG and 10.1 RPG over the last 5 games), I really thought he'd be our answer at back-up power forward this year. In those five games, he was starting at center. So, I figured he'd do even better this year as a back-up power forward. Wrong - odd year. My bad.

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  5. BalancedMan

    BalancedMan That's out of context....

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    I don't put too much blame on Frye. He's shown that when he gets semi-consistent minutes he can put up decent numbers. But playing behind Oden/Pryzbilla and LMA/Outlaw doesn't help. I think we're spoiled. We have the BEST backup Center in the league in Pryzbilla. No other team comes close to that depth at the position except for the Lakers with Bynum/Gasol, who were starting alongside each other anyways.

    There are very few Paul Millsap's in the league. Would you like him to be more like a Brandon Bass or Leon Powe? Maybe, I'm not sure. At least Frye can shoot a good jumper on the pick-and-roll (which is important in a big man) and he hits his free-throws pretty well too. Would I like a Buck Williams or Brian Grant off the bench....sure, but that is easier said than done. Quality big-men in the league are hard to find and you often overpay for someone of that stature.

    So who would you look at bringing in as our "Banger" Backup 4 over the next summer? Like I said, those kind of players often get slightly overpaid. Is Chuck Hayes good enough? Maybe targeting Psycho-T Hansbrough or DeJuan Blair in the draft?

    Ideally we'll get a good young player who is strong, tough, competitive, and has a chip on his shoulder. I don't think that Hansbrough will be a great pro, but he fits that description to a T and will be there where we draft most likely (without moving up) and thus I see that position as our one that we target in the draft with a lower-round pick assuming the status-quo on the roster and draft pick assets.
     
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    Channing Frye has a PER below 10. That's fucking pathetic for a guy who doesn't play a lick of defense, either.

    Joel being good is truth, but has nothing to do with how bad Frye is.

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  7. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yeah, but his PER in his two even numbered years is 18.1 and 14.8 - compared to 10.5 and 9.4 in his odd numbered years. I say we keep him around for one more "good" year and cut him loose during the summer of 2010.

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