Deng likely Done for year? (Update: Deng getting second opinion, more tests on leg)

McGraw:

This sucks, but if he was playing on it for three weeks and it wasn't getting better, can I be the first to say he's not a smart man if he wasn't getting it looked at sooner?

 

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"It's been bothering me maybe three or four weeks," Deng said. "I thought it was just a sprain. I had a play in the first half where I jumped up and I felt it. I'm not in pain. When I'm walking, when I get on my toes or I'm jumping, I feel it in there a little bit. But I thought it was just a bruise, but it stayed there."

This would explain his shitty play during that span too. I don't blame Deng too much for trying to play through it. Players play through pain all the time.

 

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Random thoughts:
New guys looked good; I like Salmons beard and hated Gooden's
Nice but sad seeing the tributes to Red and NVL.
Rose was representing...I see some are down on the kid on RealGM but this kid is gold...like Stacy said last night...VDN is just as responsible for making sure Rose is agressive.
Boy, Tyrus' jumper looks good still...

That stinks...I feel bad about giving him a hard time last night.

 

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Man, how could anyone get down on Rose? He's definitely been slumping before this game, but jeez.

 

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It's not so much that he tried to "play through it", but three weeks? These guys get paid huge amounts of money and have access to excellent medical and training staffs.

I don't know if he just never said anything to the Bulls training staff, or perhaps they didn't monitor it well enough, but it seems like it went on a long time without getting better. It just seems that if it hadn't gone away, they should have been looking harder and sooner.

We'll see anyway. Two big problems with Deng at this point.

1. He seems to be a dreadful fit for Vinnie’s “system”. This can be fixed by replacing him with a coach that understands better how to use him.

2. I once got shit for comparing him to the “injury prone” Gerald Wallace. Well, now Deng’s playing on a contract that couldn’t get fully inusured, and has yet another long-term injury. Maybe we can trade him for Greg Oden?

 

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Looking at his game logs, when he first came back from injury he had a good run through the Houston game. Then his play dropped off again, which started about 4 weeks ago. And the only really good game he had was the Milwaukee game. His stats seem to indicate his leg has been bothering him for a month.

 

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Michael Jordan had off nights...but he always gave it his all. He'd find a way to be helpful.
He'd play injured and just gave himself to the game.

The problem with our team is that we do not have that player who knows how to be helpful to the team when they aren't shooting well.

The Wizards game is the prime example.

DRose is getting a little less criticism because he is the newest to the NBA on the team.

 

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MJ (and Pip for most of his career) were built of iron.

Deng appears to be built of balsa wood

 

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Yeah. I got shit for suggesting that Deng's career would follow an arc similar to Robert Horry where he started out as a SF and then became a jumpshooting PF when he got older and slower. He doesn't seem to be able to handle the stress of the wing game. All these injuries are only going to make Deng slower...

 

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I had thought the opposite was the case. He always looked best suited to me to add some muscle and play as more of a quick PF than stay skinny and yet be a fairly slow wing.

When all the stuff about his back (uninsurable) came out this summer, I figured this somewhat explained why the Bulls and Deng always seemed to be describing him in G-F terms and keeping him skinny. Everyone was worried that his frame wouldn't handle the extra weight and stress of playing against stronger more physical players.

Now I just dunno if there's a way to keep him healthy at all. It's pretty frustrating because it's not as if his style of play invites injury in the first place.

 

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MJ missed most of his second year. And he took almost two years off.

 

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But MJ wasn't injury "prone" like Luol is. If Luol even falls the wrong way once he'll be injured. MJ could fall on his ass, land awkwardly, get hacked by other players to the ground and STILL be out there playing. Luol is a marshmallow. I think this was the one real injury of his career (inform me of others if I am wrong). He had another ankle injury vs the Atlanta Hawks in game 3 in the 1993 playoffs, but he returned back to the game and played through the pain off it. Let Luol get injured like that, he'll be gone from that game.

Luol has a big and fragile body...like glass. Doesn't mean I don't like Luol, but Jordan's body was WAY more solid than Luol's.


This is the video of the one real time that Jordan got injured (he missed 60 plus games):
[video=youtube;KhgDmNZvqgk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhgDmNZvqgk[/video]


Jordan broke his ankle and played on it when it wasn't completely healed. He played little minutes and just let his ankle continue to strengthen.

As for Jordan being gone for 2 years and if you are referring to his retirement:

"On October 6, 1993, Jordan announced his retirement, citing a loss of desire to play the game. Jordan later stated that the murder of his father earlier in the year shaped his decision."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jordan#First_retirement

It was really an emotional decision. But he got over it and came back and gave himself to the game even more than before.

 

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As a Blazer fan who watched this game I didn't think the bulls had any prayer of winning this game when i turned it on in the 3rd quarter. Down 17 I think. Even your local announcers who were calling the game were dogging on the bulls but thank god for that 4th quarter. Everything went right for the bulls and wrong for houston. It was one of the best comebacks I've watched. And helped the Blazer's position for moving up in the standings. Thanks again. Best of luck with the rest of your season.

 

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I'd disagree. When I watched the game I thought the bulls were really outworking Houston, they just didn't have any answer for Yao and Artest was hitting some really bad shots. The bulls were running on Houston, but just getting some tough bounces on the rim so it looked a lot worse than it was. I figured that Yao would get tired as he was grabbing his shorts in third quarter already, and Artest would start missing. But at the six minute mark in the fourth, I didn't think they'd have enough time to make it all the way back. Artest's shot selection is what did them in, they didn't go to Yao at all down the stretch.