Marc Stein: Team worried about Greg's mental status?

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  1. Masbee

    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    How could the ceiling be that high? DD was an ironman. Until he left Portland at age 34 he averaged 74 games played his first 13 seasons.

    He he.

    However, his average career PER is 15. And a peak of 17. Oden as a rookie coming off microfracture and battling other injuries has already beat that. If (IF) Oden can gain health, his ceiling is far, far, far above DD.

    Thanks for playing, but your comparo doesn't make much sense. Either Oden becomes (even reasonably) healthy, in which case he will be much better than DD, or he is constantly battling major injuries, in which case he is more like a Bowie - an above average center - when he can manage to play.
     
  2. BalancedMan

    BalancedMan That's out of context....

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    I have been worried about his "mental status" for a while now. What ceiling do you put on Greg now. Would a "Samuel Dalembert" on steroids be too little? He won't be like Dwight, that is for certain, but he could certainly be a very good center in this league. If he could become like Marcus Camby, I'd almost be happy with that given his defense (steals and blocks) and also penchant for assists.

    He won't be a dominant big man, but he could be a borderline all-star and a 16/12 type of guy, which we've already seen this year in his numbers.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Far from certain. Despite having been a year removed from basketball and recovering from microfracture, which generally takes at least a season, he's been above average for an NBA starter when he's been on the court. That places his ceiling extremely high.

    If he weren't recovering from the surgery and thus had his normal explosiveness and athleticism, and didn't have the issues with fouls, his rookie numbers would be right in line with Howard's rookie numbers. Not that fouls aren't a fault of his, but they're highly unlikely to be a permanent problem. His efficiency when on the court compares favourably with Howard's rookie on-court efficiency.
     
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    All anyone knows from the Oden saga thus far is nothing is for certain! This thread and every thread just like it is worthless because nobody has a crystal ball that can see in Greg's head and into his future in the NBA. Why don't y'all just give him some support so he can be the best he can be, instead of just questioning every stupid little thing he does, like "Oh my god, Greg sat in a different spot of the bench!" Its the fucking NBA it takes a while for players to figure out, especially if you have a rough start.

    The only thing for certain in this thread is nobody knows Jack Shit about GO's future!
     
  5. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Some of you people are fucking pathetic.

    I won't go into any further detail because you know who are and you know the reason why. :wink:
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Sorry. :(
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Truth hurts eh buddy? :devilwink:
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I'd fight you, but you're Scottish, I believe...you channel rage better than I.
     
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    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Flowers for Algernon did win a Hugo award. Maybe he's Daniel Keyes, and just needs another outlet. Message boards are easier than sequels.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Hehe. Maybe, but not as well as this.

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    Also, did you know Scotland has its own martial arts? It's called "fuk-yu;" it mostly involves head butting people and kicking them while they are on the ground. :wink:
     
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    Oooh, oooh, ooooh, it's me!, it's me!, I am the pathetic one.

    Pathetic practically oozes from the pores of Masbee. His is a sad, sad tale of woe.
     
  12. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I really hope we can bundle these Oden-bashing threads to recall in the future.

    As for GO, I bet he's down. He's had the weight of the franchise put on his shoulders and he hasn't been able to stay healthy enough to make a consistent contribution. Regardless of his demeanor, he's a competitive SOB. My guess is that he badly wants to play and to help the team.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You should see a dermatologist then.
     
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    Idk if it's been reported here, but Jason Quick said the reports that Oden will need off-season surgery are "absolutely false" and hasn't even been brought up by the team.

    His knee continues to get better and he's doing pilates again. Swelling is going down and the knee just continues to get better. He still feels a little pain however, and he feels it when he has to stop.
     
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    And btw, James Andrews, probably the biggest name you want to here from, has looked at the MRI's and x-rays and he even concluded that surgery isn't required and rest and rehab is the best action to take.
     
  16. julius

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    Pfft, whats that guy done? We have people here who have had knee injuries! they KNOW the truth!
     
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    So Monday will be day 7 since the Blazers announced he would be out an additional 7-10 days. Any chance that he could play against the Lakers?

    I was worried about Greg's mental status earlier in the year, because he looked so timid. Like this was all too much for him. But he was playing some very good ball before he got hurt again. I'm not sure why some are so critical of him. You know, he's only 20-21, and his body isn't even fully developed yet.

    Hasn't he shown enough this season for you all to see he'll be a good player? 16 and 10 when he plays at least 26 minutes. We're not talking Kwame Brown or Darko Milicic here.
     
  19. MAS RipCity

    MAS RipCity Mercy, Mercy

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    Please never go to a Blazers game again or cheer on the team. You are clearly a frontrunner and quick to kick a guy when he is down. Your avatar is down right disgusting. You really give our fan base a shitty name sometimes.
    how would you like all of us to go to your family and your job and hold up signs calling you the big mistake..huh?
     
  20. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Some people tried that last week, it didn't work out so well.
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