It's easier to make personal attacks than to give someone he disagrees with the benefit of the doubt. 24 is so ridiculously good. And ridiculously ridiculous. Which makes it good. Ed O.
You thought enough to post your own thread and then run away for over an hour. Whatever, though. Toko has already escalated things.
Nope, just turned off safesearch, googled giant balls, and picked the one least likely to get someone fired for viewing at work
So do you guys actually think the Ariza play was dirty??? I really feel for Rudy, that honestly sucks and hope he is fine very soon but cmon..not even a flagrant let alone flagrant 2. Ariza was going for the ball and whacked Rudy in the back of the head swatting for it. Obvious foul, sucks how he landed, but not a flagrant <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/oefOOK8K_wY&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/oefOOK8K_wY&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
I believe that the rule is that its an automatic flagrant if you hit the guy in the head, even if you didn't mean to.
Oh brother. Now talking smack is making "personal attacks". Perhaps I labeled the wrong guy a "Weenie".
Ariza's actions after the play were the actions of a douche bag. On the SportsCenter view, he glances over to Rudy and then starts flapping his arms and screaming like a chump.
Well if thats true then yes its a flagrant...but i dont think thats true... Its if you are making a play at the ball or not iirc
Roy was on him 2 seconds after he landed. What did you want him to do, get on his knees and cry for forgiveness? Had Roy calmed the fuck down, I bet he would have checked up on rudy.
I don't think it was a dirty play. It was just a bad set of circumstances involved - Ariza did get part ball but he also got part hand which is just a normal foul, but then things go from foul to very bad (not Ariza's fault though): 1. His hand slipped off Rudy's hand and the ball (because of sweat or momentum) and hit the back of Rudy's head (unintentionally) and also with the follow-through caught part of Rudy's other arm. 2. At that point (when Ariza caught the other arm) Rudy was already twisting in mid-air and that gave his body even more momentum so he twisted even worse. 3. Rudy's left arm was completely stretched behind him when he landed, and the landing was bad because Rudy is light and he had no protection for his side/rib-cage and he kinda bounced off the floor a bit. 4. The players and crowd reaction at that point and Rudy not getting up at all. Because of those events he got a flagrant two for what wasn't a dirty play but probably a misguided one. I hope he doesn't get suspended because the ejection was punishment enough. It was just an unfortunate series of events after the initial contact.
Ariza looked over at Rudy and then turned away and started screaming. After your act in another thread about Rudy being "brittle", I'm not going to take a thing you say seriously.
http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_12.html?nav=ArticleList Section IV(b). It was pretty obviously a flagrant 2. Excessive? Without a doubt. He sent Rudy tumbling through the air and landing all out of whack. Intentional? I think so. He intended, he said, to make a "hard foul" on the ball. One does not make a hard foul without contact. It doesn't mean that he meant to hurt Rudy, but an intention to harm is not considered when handing out flagrant fouls. Ed O.
I'm pretty sure the only shit talking going on after the play was Ariza and Roy. There were a bunch of people between Ariza and Rudy right after the play. Ariza was pretty thuggish with Roy...I read lips and saw a "bitch ass n----a" headed in Roy's direction
