If the NBA is going to continue to be consistent with their bench-leaving rule, then Lamar deserved his one-game suspension. Lakers got a tough rest of the month with 8 of the 11 games out on the road. I hope they lose their HCA through the playoffs.
You need to understand how Wikipedia works. It's a collaborative knowledgebase. ANYBODY can contribute. Postings are supposed to be reviewed, but there is no guarantee that anything is accurate. It's a good place to get general high level knowledge, but NOT an authoratative source. It's basically some well meaning volunteer's interpretation of the rule. But why rely on a second-hand interpretation. There is only ONE definitive source for information on NBA rules - the NBA rule book. The complete rule book is available online at NBA.com (links already posted). BNM
I know how wikipedia works. Thanks for making assumptions though. I was already clearly corrected by LOTB so no need to be redundant. Also to that part in bold, nearly all the stuff on wikipedia shows it source where the knowledge came from. So most stuff is actually accurate, not just opinion, which is how you make it sound. Take a look at the references it uses. References * NBA Rule Number 12: Fouls and Penalties * NCAA Rule 4: Definitions * NCAA Rule 10: Fouls and Penalties in 2008 NCAA Men's and Women's Basketball Rules * NFHS Rule 2: Definitions 2-16c c. Flagrant — a foul so severe or extreme that it places an opponent in danger of serious injury, and/or involves violations that are extremely or persistently vulgar or abusive conduct. * NFHS Rule 10: Fouls and Penalties How did I not see that.
How in the heck do you KNOW that Ariza did not intend to either initiate that contact or persist with that contact? How the fuck do you KNOW?
cause I watched the replay? Ariza wasnt even looking in the direction of Rudy when their arms hit each other...there was no plan of dragging him down, he didnt have the time even if he wanted to plan it
He wasn't looking in the direction of Rudy? Well how can one be trying to time a leap just perfectly to execute an incredible block if they aren't even looking at the player? I mean, that's incredible.
Oh jesus.... sorry let me spell it out for you... When that part of the incident occurred (arms hitting) Ariza was already spotting his landing
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I find the fact that you are watching this over and over again pretty disturbing. I was at the game, saw it once and figured that was enough. Not suprising though. If you watch enough times, maybe you can convince yourself Ariza was fouled by Rudy.
really...you are arguing sitting in the stands and seeing it in real time is a better view than watching 5 different angles in slow mo....okay ...and where exactly were your seats? In front of the camera man sitting baseline I can only assume
Really? Oh Boy! Thanks for spelling it out for me. Odd. He sure looks to be looking at him. Although, by your thought, before he even gets contact on a block, he is already looking to land, as opposed to looking to make a block. Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
Comical. Your rationalizations for why Ariza's "message" hard foul in front of his complaining the team is soft coach, as the team was getting blown out, WAS NOT IN FACT AN INTENTIONAL HARD FOUL, are old at this point. Either Ariza went in the motion with some level of malice, or he didn't. If he did, the heat of the moment can cause him to do just about anything - including hanging on to whatever contact there is to give Rudy a little extra something-something. You know, to let him know Ariza was there. Do you actually think that NBA players are taught to grab a limb, hold onto it, and then yank it? Please. They are taught how to impact another body in natural looking motions. Like bringing your arms down, when keeping them up is just as normal. Why were Arizas arms coming down? If Ariza were going in for a layup, he could/would have kept him arms up the entire time. He didn't HAVE to bring his arms down onto Rudy.
wow...this is amazing...you are basing your argument on a still frame now??? You realize their arms havent made contact yet right????? right???
Are you serious? Are you??? You watched it a dozen or so times. You do realize his right arm was hit first, hence the odd angle in that picture. Then, you can see his head at an odd angle as well, also from getting hit. But yeah, that's before contact. Watch it another dozen or so times, and see if you can actually know what the fuck you're talking about. Thanks. I'm basing it off a still picture, you can't even look at a still picture and see what's happening. Nice. Right?? Right?? How many more question marks until I get to look as stupid as you do?
So I was wrong about one thing. Ariza wasnt spotting his landing. I was wrong. See! Im not some smug Laker fan as somebody claimed earlier. But just look at the swat attempt. For sake of argument lets just say Ariza was going for his head. After swinging through how the hell are you gonna instantly stop the momentum of your arm? Their arms were gonna collide no matter what <object width="560" height="345"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/N-4bzfpTazA&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/N-4bzfpTazA&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="345"></embed></object>
The arm we are all talking about is Rudys left arm, the one that Ariza hit to spin him around edit: btw, i love you too rr7
