<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Consistent. If all i do is question Kobe's shot selection that what's the use. That's like nitpicking Shaq for not hitting his freethrow. That is not right. If the certain player is doing everything he can and all you do is sit there and say "he's shot are not good" then you're not a fan. You're a person who wants everything to be perfect.I'm not saying if you question his shot selection you;re not a fan but if on a constant basis you do whilst ignoring all the positives then you're not a fan. Simple.If all laker fans sat there and kept on questioning Shaq;'s freethrow whilst forgetting everything else he does than he/she is not a fan.</div>Then why is it ok to call out other players and nitpick?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>K-mart,You're just a dumbass who says stuff without showing any proof. This is my favourite one,but I've never seen you question Kobe's shot selection or faults on a consistent basisIf i on a consistent base questioned kobe's shot selection then i'm not a laker fan. All you see is the negatives. I see the negatives but the positives outweigh it. That's what i'm trying to get at,.</div>It sounds like you just made his point accurate. He said you never question his shot selection and faults. And you basically said you don't.And I disagree, fans can call out their players when they play horrible. It's the nature of the game.
Melo-First of all, you don't need to go to laker only forums to see what they think about the team and Kobe. They spam enough in general discussion forums everyday with crap topics asking if he is the GOAT.Secondly, Pippen>>>>>>>>>Odom. They do not play the same positions. Yes, both Point Forwards, but that's it. They play different roles in the triangle, different roles on defense, etc...Lastly, you can say something negative about a player and still be a fan. I criticize T-Mac all the time, and LBJ all the time, and same with Kobe, but they are still my favorite players. Criticizing a player is not dwelling. If you feel focusing on the negative is a bad thing and makes you not a fan, then why do you criticize the WHOLE LAKERS ROSTER OUTSIDE OF KOBE??? To me, you are not a Laker fan, just another Kobe fan.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clutch_Melo_061 @ Mar 21 2006, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Consistent. If all i do is question Kobe's shot selection that what's the use. That's like nitpicking Shaq for not hitting his freethrow. That is not right. If the certain player is doing everything he can and all you do is sit there and say "he's shot are not good" then you're not a fan. You're a person who wants everything to be perfect.I'm not saying if you question his shot selection you;re not a fan but if on a constant basis you do whilst ignoring all the positives then you're not a fan. Simple.If all laker fans sat there and kept on questioning Shaq;'s freethrow whilst forgetting everything else he does than he/she is not a fan.</div>I wouldn't be mad if he was getting to the hoop, just missing shots because of skill or something, but he's taking impossible shots on purpose I don't know why. And that is not all that I notice about his game. I notice the goods and the bads, knowing the goods makes me a fan, knowing the bads keeps me in check. I do this with all the players.
First of all, you don't need to go to laker only forums to see what they think about the team and Kobe. They spam enough in general discussion forums everyday with crap topics asking if he is the GOAT.There either joking or really stupid.Secondly, Pippen>>>>>>>>>Odom. They do not play the same positions. Yes, both Point Forwards, but that's it. They play different roles in the triangle, different roles on defense, etc...Point foward is a position in the triangle therefore they do play the same position.Lastly, you can say something negative about a player and still be a fan. I criticize T-Mac all the time, and LBJ all the time, and same with Kobe, but they are still my favorite playersWhere on earth have i said you can't criticize you're favourite players. What i'm saying is that i do not like to dwell on negatives when his positives outweigh it. There's alot of flaws in kobe's game, everyone knows that. However i do not dwell on stuff like that because i know kobe will do something next game to get rid of that. If odom could follow up his horrible preformances with good ones than i wouldn't dwell on his problems either. For example if Odom had a bad game next i'd keep queit because he's had a series of good games. However if odom had a series of bad games and then a good one i'd keep silent.criticizing a player is not dwelling. If you feel focusing on the negative is a bad thing and makes you not a fan, then why do you criticize the WHOLE LAKERS ROSTER OUTSIDE OF KOBE??? To me, you are not a Laker fan, just another Kobe fan. I have never critized Devean george in my life. I have never criticized Andrew bynum in my life. I have never critcized Chris mihm in my life. So no, i haven't critcized the whole roster. I actually cricized kobe when he went for 9-33 and when he took 30+ shots whilst under 45%. I've never defended that.If Lamar odom's postives outweighed his negatives i would not say anything about him. Yesterday he had 7 to's however he helped in other ways so i can only praise.edit: Then why is it ok to call out other players and nitpickp?I think i've answered that. I never nitpicked on shaq's freethrows because he was doing other stuff that would hide it.All laker fans know kobe's shooting is shaky, we all know that. You don't have to remind us of it.
K-mart,You're just a dumbass who says stuff without showing any proof. This is my favourite one,but I've never seen you question Kobe's shot selection or faults on a consistent basisIf i on a consistent base questioned kobe's shot selection then i'm not a laker fan. All you see is the negatives. I see the negatives but the positives outweigh it. That's what i'm trying to get at,.It sounds like you just made his point accurate. He said you never question his shot selection and faults. And you basically said you don't.A) PM every member of the board and ask them if I make point without proof. All of them will say I put proof in 95% of posts I make. You proved me correct. You said yourself that you don't critisize Kobe because the positives outweigh the negatives. Because then you wouldn't be a Laker fan. The Rockets are a top 5 team of mine, and I have questioned Yao Ming and Tray McGrady. I've said Vince Carter is too passive, even though I like the Nets. I've said Chris Bosh doesn't demand the ball enough in the 4th, and I love the Raptors. I've questioned players on my favorite teams, and so have othersThe fact you are now insulting me at every chance shows that myself and the rest of this board are getting to you: You are seeing our points
What you want me to do is consistently critcize kobe. I won't do that. I have criticized kobe in the past, when he's played bad. I know he's shooting is shaky, it doesn't have to be reaffirmed every second.What you have to understand is that i won't sit here and consistently diss kobe, i don't even consistenly diss Odom. Uptill latley Kobe was of like 3 on the team who came to play day in day out. My question is this, have you ever seen me question Chris mihm? Devean george? Why haven't i? ask your're self that.
I've seen yuo critisize Chris Mihm. Once when someone said that Kobe doesn't pass the ball enough, I believe you replied with the remark: Who is he going to pass to? Chris Mihm?Now I don't have photographic memory, so I cannot say exactly what thread, section, date it was in. You'll have to take my word for it or not. Same as why I don't recall you dissing Kobe, I don't have a photographic memory. It's very likely a fan wouldn't constantly diss and remark on their favorite player, but to my knowledge I've never seen you critisize Kobe. If you have, I apologize, but I really can't think of any instance.
When kobe went for 9-33 i said that unacceptbale. Then i said if he takes 30 shots and makes half of them or close to it's fine. The bcb called me out. I remember it, it was the first time i came to bbw and all you guys were having a fit.I may have said that about Chris mihm last season because he was inconsistent last season and the training camp helped him. I don't remember saying it latley though
It was at the beginning of the year if I'm correct, so I guess it kind of does go both ways. P.S. I think we've got to you HaHa
You haven't got me. I won't have to diss kobe because he will never go for 9-33, Phil will not let him do that.
"It's like sex with Kobe Bryant, you can kick and scream all you want but you know it's going to happen." - Peter Griffin from Family Guy.
Melo- No one expects you to criticize Kobe all the time, but sometimes you ignore the negatives and it makes you look bad. Especially when all you seem to do is criticize the Lakers as a team, and make Kobe look like he does no wrong. BCB- LoL
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Mar 22 2006, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>"It's like sex with Kobe Bryant, you can kick and scream all you want but you know it's going to happen." - Peter Griffin from Family Guy.</div>I don't know where that came from, but any Kobe Bryant sex joke is primed to make me laugh my butt off
