I agree with you and crandc about "artificial looking" women (and men) being a bit creepy. Real people FTW.
A few years ago there was a TV show called "The Swan". It was a cross between Extreme Makeovers and a beauty pagent. They picked regular women and spent weeks remodeling them with surgeries and teeth and hair and diets and personal trainers. At the end they had a beauty pagent. All the ladies came out looking like Miss America (seriously). They were all so perfect and the first thing I thought was, "They all look alike, that's sad".
Yeah, that's the other annoying thing...beauty (at least in the West) has become standardized. There are very specific ideals that all visions of beauty offered by mass media conform to. I think there are obviously many ways to be cute/attractive/appealing, but lots of people who are attractive end up with low self-esteem for not looking like the people given the "lovely" label on TV or in magazines. The funny/sad thing is that non-conformist attractive is often what TV shows use as ugly ("TV ugly").
Yes, what a great example! Those beauty pageant children looked like...mutants. Children shouldn't look like that.
This is a fantastic discussion but I don't want to bother the people just wanting Blazer talk. Do you think we should move this to the OT forum? Anyway, I don't know if I'm weird (well, I do and I am) but I don't want to fix my "flaws" because they're a part of me and they're mine. In fact, I love my crooked smile because it's crooked! I want to look like me. I can totally understand wanting to correct something like burn scars or really bad teeth but I feel sorry for these women who strive for perfection trying to correct every little unacceptable millimeter. I think it would be difficult to live in their heads. And everybody ages. What are they going to do when their life's work can't be maintained? Sometimes I think beauty really can be a curse.
Yeah, with the inclusion of wives/girlfriends of so many non-Blazers players, in addition to this discussion on beauty, I'd say this thread has meandered pretty far from Blazers-related.
Makes sense to me. Unless one subscribes to a belief in "platonic beauty," there really aren't "flaws," just individual characteristics. Mannequins are "unflawed."
I've had people say I was a Mary Ann and not a Ginger more than once. I always took it to mean they were kidding me because I'm so not glamorous. I like the board's opinion much better, hah!
Did you ever expect to go to a basketball board and have such a philosophical conversation? A few years back I had a co-worker kiddingly say that my boyfriend at the time wasn't exactly a beauty queen. I remember being shocked because I was so attracted to him. I had grown so attracted to him because of his humor and personality I didn't see his "flaws" as flaws. Does that make sense? I literally couldn't believe anyone would look at him and see something different than I did.
Mary Ann had spunk...............and so do you, for that matter. Spud spunk. Yeah, that's it. Spud spunk.
I've had some of the best online discussions on sports forums. What're you gonna do between games (or the off-season) and there's no particular news? Absolutely! I've dated women who I think were perceived as pretty by most people, but I've also dated some women that I know were much more attractive in my eyes than most other people's. A big component of attraction is mental/emotional. Even the physical attraction changes based on how you feel about the person and how much they engage you. There have been some people (men and women) who were extremely good-looking but so abysmally stupid that their looks began to feel simpering and pathetic to me. It was a complete mental artifact, but I know it happens for other people, too.
Raef and his wife. She is not a beauty queen, or a dancer, or anything like that. As far as I know she still owns her own business somewhere around Boston.
I have a scale of physical attractiveness that has three elements. For a long time it was only two, which corresponded pretty well with Ginger and Mary Ann. I've had to add a third one as time has gone by. Cute: Mary Ann. What does she look like out of makeup? Does she seem "spunky"? Hot: Ginger. Could she be a stripper if she were so inclined? Classy: This was the most recent addition. Sometimes there are ways that women handle themselves that is purely physical but can add or detract from overall attractiveness. A woman could be cute and incredibly hot but... be utterly lacking class. Another woman could be so-so in terms of the other two elements but have a dignity and a presence that makes her much, much more appealing. My friends and I call it the CHC scale, and it is generally given as a 10/10/10 maximum score... I'd prefer to do RGB values, so we could be more visual, but that would be too much memorization. And would have to have us reevaluate how we communicate. Compare these two statements: "Tuesday night girl one called and I had drinks with her... she's cool and a 7/8/6. I talked to girl two, who's 8/7/8, last night and she can't go out on Friday night because she's hanging with her best friend (7/7/7)." to "Tuesday night girl one called and I had drinks with her... she's cool and . I talked to girl two, who's , last night and she can't go out on Friday night because she's hanging with her best friend ()." Hmm... it would work better if the scale was more on a curve... very few girls we'd talk about would be below a 4 in any category. Hmm... Ed O.
I know exactly what you mean! This is going to sound like a female chauvinist (a fauxvinist?) but I've had instances where I've thought a guy was totally hot at first glance and then he opened his mouth and said something stupid or shallow and I was like, "nevermind".
