Kobe or Ray Allen?

Okay, before you answer this question, I want your replies to be considering their overall skill, not just Ray Allen's outside shot or Kobe's fourth-quarter leadership. But to all devoted fans to either player, know this is a friendly topic, but serious too :beerchug: :closedeyes:So, Kobe, or Allen? Feel free to break this down into categories, such as defense, shooting, play-making, speed, specialities, etc.

 

Scoring- KobePassing- KobeDefense- KobeThis is the worst comparision i've ever seen

 

Hey man, you obviously weren't watching the Sonics-Lakers game. And you were pretty general there. I mean go to the 3, the athleticism, the attitude, the clutch, not 'scoring' 'passing' 'defense'

 

Cmon man, even Charles Barkely would pick Kobe over Ray Allen.

 

Take away both players' three point shot. Now tell me who the better player is.

 

Definitely Kobe, Ray Allen isn't in his league.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swift The Swatter @ Mar 22 2006, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey man, you obviously weren't watching the Sonics-Lakers game. And you were pretty general there. I mean go to the 3, the athleticism, the attitude, the clutch, not 'scoring' 'passing' 'defense'</div>Kobe shut down Ray allen in the 2nd half of their last encounter before this one. Big deal

 

I just said that because you made Allen sound like a crumb. The Sonics are different now, too. I see your points, and they're right, mostly. Not to be stubborn, but for last word, it's not that "Ray Allen isn't in Kobe's league" it's that, "Ray Allen isn't on Kobe's team" So yeah, Kobe might oust him in clutch shooting and making a circus show out of other NBA teams, because his teammates seem to support that style of playing. I'm done, and I won't say any more. Kobe wins the vote, end of topic. Keep posting, but I'm oblivious.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swift The Swatter @ Mar 21 2006, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I just said that because you made Allen sound like a crumb. The Sonics are different now, too. I see your points, and they're right, mostly. Not to be stubborn, but for last word, it's not that "Ray Allen isn't in Kobe's league" it's that, "Ray Allen isn't on Kobe's team" So yeah, Kobe might oust him in clutch shooting and making a circus show out of other NBA teams, because his teammates seem to support that style of playing. I'm done, and I won't say any more. Kobe wins the vote, end of topic. Keep posting, but I'm oblivious.</div>You're oblivious to the reason why Kobe's better than Ray Allen?

 

Yeah seriously. This is a bad topic. Kobe easily takes this one.

 

Even I would take Kobe. Ray Allen is a good player but not a superstar. Barkley overrates him.

 

Ray Allen for sure.

 

Ray Allen? C'mon, maybe compare Ray Allen and Pierce....Kobe is ridiculous, I'd like to see Ray Allen score 81 points in a game.

 

I think Pierce would still win that easily.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ Mar 22 2006, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Pierce would still win that easily.</div>Yeah Pierce is underrated.

 

Paul pierce> Ray allen.

 

dont get me wrong, ray allen is great player, one of the best 3pt shooters...but you can't compare him to kobe, whether it be actual playing or mere stats, its just not there.

 

Why are comparisons like these made?Kobe. Kobe. Kobe.

 

Alright guys, let's make this new member feel worse. And people wonder why this board is on the "downside" The guy comes here, and makes some comparisons, and in his first few days we are insulting his topic. Smart move guys.

 

I never insulted it, I'm a perfect model for the ideal member. Kind of like the Jesus Christ of this board.