not sarcasm at all. they made t shirts that they probably thought were humorous(though obviously in a very politically incorrect way). big deal. as for the content of the shirts, if you're in the military and a pregnant woman is firing a rifle at you trying to kill you, do you not fire back because she is pregnant? same thing with a child? it's a pretty shitty unfortunate situation to be in, but if it's kill or be killed i think you know what happens there. now, these people definitely should have known better than making these shirts and should have known exactly what would have happened if they did. but i don't see it being a huge deal. actual allegations of misconduct and intentional killings of civilians are infinitely more important that some stupid t shirt.
the shirt shows a pregnant woman holding a rifle. obviously the 1 shot 2 kills is in horrible taste and it's nothing that should be sanctioned by the israeli army. but i just don't see why some people are making this out to be a huge deal.
I dont think you are right...I cant see one (but I need glasses) and they mention another shirt that has a rifle on it but not this one. Pretty sure she is unarmed in that picture.
i'm pretty sure she has a rifle. the one with a child on it apparently has a rifle as well. i did read though that there is a third shirt with a woman mourning at the sight of a grave. i never saw a picture of it, but i never read that she had a rifle in that one. of the 3, that's the only one i really have a problem with(though like i said before, you'd have to be an idiot to think making these shirts was a good idea).
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wo...03315245946?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_2 of course, there also are pictures there of the other shirts including ones showing soldiers blowing up mosques. i still think there are much bigger things to worry about, but i want to know who the fuck thought making these shirts was a good idea.
hmm...ive seen two reports that dont say that...I can see some stuff in the pic with her but it doesnt at all look like there is a rifle in the pic. can you see the rifle? edit: maybe that thing in the upper corner?
she is holding the rifle in her left hand (on our right) in the air in the corner of the frame. I think its a stupid shirt, but i'm pro-Isreal.
Horribly poor taste. As a vet... I do know what basic training is about... brainwashing and programming... and they do want to eliminate the consious thought out of you... there can be no hesitation... someone coming at you with gun... you shoot... that is what I *think* that shirt is about... in the context of where those soldiers are at coming out of basic training... good or bad... I get it a *little* bit... but from the context of a civilians eyes... it looks horrible. There have been fake pregnant women involved in suicide attacks in Isreal... so they may not be viewing this shirt literally like we are.
Yeah, she's holding a rifle, but that's not the problem. The Arabs are seen as trying to take back Israel by sheer numbers. Like how conservative pundits worry about too many Latinos being born in America, there is a similar feeling in Israel about Arabs. They are worried about the Arab population growth and I think this is a product of that.
Her holding a rifle DOES make a difference in my eyes. I didnt think she was...still pretty fucking lame
Well maybe you should all think about the fact you don't understand how much these people hate each other. This shirt pretty much makes that statement straight up. I am not condoning what they do, but if you sit down and actually think about what the shirt says, and how both sides treat each other, it is quite sobering to realize that these people do truly hate each other to the point that they want the other side exterminated. Once you look at that, and then try to realize what hurdles our government has to jump over to try and establish peace in the area, and you begin to realize how truly hard it is. A truly monumental task. The crazy thing is, everybody looks to the U.S.A to lead the situation to peace, and blames us whenever it fails. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.
My dad is Iraqi and I have been to Israel...Im very aware of the hate. Except we have given Israel Nuclear weapons, tanks, and fighter jets to subdue people in shacks who may or may not have an AK-47