Zbo: "I'm better than Chris Bosh,"

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  1. mgb

    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

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    Obviously it's debatable.
     
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    alex42083 Thanks Brandon

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    Chris Bosh
    Four-time NBA All-Star
    All-NBA second team member
    All-NBA rookie team member
    Five-time Eastern Conference player of the week
    One time Eastern Conference player of the month
    Olympic gold medalist
    Led team to first ever division title
    Franchise leader in rebounds, blocks, double doubles

    Zach Randolph
    Most Improved Player award winner
    Been traded twice for cap space
    Leader of the Hoops Family
    Evidently thinks he's better than Chris Bosh
     
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  3. Deebag

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    He's not better, but Bosh is definitely overrated...
     
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    BoBoBREWSKI BURP!

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    LOL at the people who think Zbo is > than Bosh.

    Ya'll should be banned for lack of BB knowledge.

    Embarrassing.
     
  6. BLAZER PROPHET

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    Agreed.
     
  7. Foulzilla

    Foulzilla No Blood, No Foul.

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    I'm surprised (but not really surprised, because this is the internet) that there's anyone who seriously thinks Zach is better than Bosh, much less significantly better. While I do think Zach is a better player than most on this board give him credit, I'd take Bosh over him every time.
     
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    I agree, man.

    Yeah, I definitely agree with this, and this is what I was going to say. Its not just about stats, as we aren't talking who is the better in fantasy bball. If you include defense, and being a team player, I think Bosh is superior. I don't know if I agree with your assessment of where each player ranks, though.
     
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    This.
     
  10. Masbee

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    Thank you.

    Why is this a debate?

    Add this to the mix:

    Zach, 500 career games over 8 seasons, Win Shares = 27.5

    Bosh, 428 career games over 6 seasons, Win Shares = 50.5

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/randoza01.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html
     
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    Steve Nash and Sabastian Telfair have 4 fewer blocks on the season then ZBo. Hinrich has more.

    No matter how hard you try and polish it, a turd is still a turd.

    For a fantasy basketball team, I say Z-Bo and Bosh are close. For an actual basketball team, Bosh wins in a landslide.

    I admit that I am not very impartial when it comes to Z-Bo since he is my 5th most hated Blazer ever.

    I got a real chuckle out of posting on a New York Knicks message board about how much they would end up hating that dick then watching them slowly realize what a looser he is. Priceless!
     
  12. Ed O

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    How much better are the Knicks since the trade again?

    Ed O.
     
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    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

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    + ZBO beat them on their home court...just like he did with PDX this year.
     
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    LameR Ha Seung-Jin Approved!

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    Last time I checked, a .394 winning percentage (Knicks this year) is better than a .280 winning percentage (last year). Yeah, there were other additions and subtractions, but not having Zach is a large part of that.

    If you want to play devil's advocate, you could say the Knicks were 6-5 at the beginning of the year with him, although they only played 3 teams of quality and he shot only 43%.

    It's pretty obvious to me, even without the numbers that the Knicks are a lot better team without him.
     
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    Um... that's not "devil's advocate". That's the primary point: winning games.

    Have you watched the Knicks recently? They're terrible.

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    Actually I think it was more due to actually having a coach (D'antoni) and a point guard (which they never had for the past few years)
     
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    It's not.
     
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    Bosh is definitely the better player. Bosh's scoring efficiency and passing advantages are largely negated by Randolph's rebounding prowess, though not entirely. The main point is that Bosh is a much larger asset on defense than Randolph, which is a huge portion of the game.

    The difference, though, is almost certainly overstated by the "Randolph is a cancer and stat-stuffer" crowd.
     
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    If Zach stayed in NYC this season, under D'Antoni, he would've made the All Star team and the Knicks would probably be going to the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed. They were playing great with him at the beginning of the season. And the Clippers have played pretty well when Zach is in the lineup. If the Clippers are healthy next season, they will win half their games.
     
  20. BasX

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    Imagine Bosh under D'Antoni. Craziness.
     

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