Noc unloads on Kings... and last year's Bulls

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  1. MikeDC

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    He says Sacramento is, "Es la peor temporada de mi carrera".

    Translated from Hoopshype, he's saying
    ouch
     
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    I lost all hope in Noch long before last year.
     
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    I love Noc, but John Salmons is better.
     
  4. MikeDC

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    Heh, he does come off sounding more than a little bit bitter, don't he?
     
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    He's not lying though.
     
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    Nocioni's a phoney. Never puts in the hard work himself to be a great player to help a team win. Just chucks up shots and doesn't play defense.
     
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    He was easily my favorite Bull during their first playoff series with the Miami Heat a few years ago. After that, he took some steps backwards.
     
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    Be careful, that's a definition that applies to some current bulls as well.
     
  9. Денг Гордон

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    Who does that apply to? Joakim Noah?

    Hinrich, Gordon, Deng, Thomas...they all put in the work to be better players. Whether it shows is another story, but they put in the work.
     
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    Are you sure? Of the players you listed only Thomas and to a much lesser extent Gordon have added to their games in the off seasons.
     
  11. Денг Гордон

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    Hinrich and Deng work on their games in the summer though. Deng seems to get worse every offseason. Not sure what he's doing with David Thorpe, but it's not good. Hinrich has made big improvements since last year as well.

    But those two are quite different from Gordon in particular, who you see new moves and new aspects to his game each season. (Fastbreak scoring this season). Thomas has added some new dribbling moves, and of course the improves jumpshot.

    But all four of those guys worked hard this summer. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, what Deng is doing is making him worse.
     
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    Enough with the fastbreak scoring. The bulls are playing an uptempo, running style. The fastbreak scoring has nothing to do with BG and the off-season. Please stop with that stuff. You don't work on your "fast-break scoring" in the offseason. Again, I'm begging you, quit making this shit up.
     
  13. kukoc4ever

    kukoc4ever Let's win a ring! Staff Member Moderator

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    Man, somebody is a grumpy goober.

    Ben Gordon is very good at basketball.

    Let it sink in.

    I've noticed that Gordon is seemingly better at finishing at the rim this year.
     
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    I'm not arguing with that. Finishing better at the rim would be something, and BG had a couple nice dunks in traffic about 2 months ago. But they weren't on fast breaks and the idea that BG "worked on his fast break scoring over the summer" is still ludicrous.
     
  15. MikeDC

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    I'm positively shocked at the direction bullshooter has taken this thread! :doh:

    Noc's right but at the same time, but he wasn't exactly a model of selflessness out there, which makes it all the more silly.
     
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    I think it's hard to judge anybody's "selflessness" on the last year and a half of bull's basketball. They haven't exactly been a cohesive, well oiled machine for more than about the last two weeks at best since beating Miami in the playoffs. They just had their first four game win streak since that sweep I think.
     

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