Yahoo Sports - NBA age minimum again

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  1. Nate Dogg

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    This time they interview NBA analysis Kenny Smith.
    http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/rog...ar=no,directories=no,status=no,menubar=no'));
    I agree with Kenny on one point that he makes.
    I think 4 year colleges should make an incoming player have an agreement that they must stay at that school for at least two years. There have been tons of high school busts that have entered into the NBA.
    Kenny mentioned.
    Omar Cooks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Cook
     
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  2. Master Shake

    Master Shake young phoenix

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    Horrible idea. They can make their own choices. A minimum of 1 year at college is enough I think. They can continue to study if they so chose.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    I'd expect more HS-ers to go straight to Europe. The Brandon Jennings rout.
     
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    The only ones I see going overseas are the ones that can't get eligible or the big head arrogant players.
     
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    Master Shake young phoenix

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    Didn't BJ only go to the Euro league cause he couldn't even get in to College?
     
  6. La Bomba

    La Bomba The Future

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    Correct, ACT's didn't qualify.

    I want a two year rule simply because all the one and done's Memphis gets would have to stay another year. Imagine a Sophomore Derrick Rose.
     
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    To tell the truth, I would like the NBA to do something similar to to the NFL or MLB, where players can't declare for draft until 3 years after they graduated from HS. This would weed out a lot of undetermined players, and it would also help these college kids mature before they get into the league since the NBA is a business. Another factor is their body will be more ready to come into the NBA and it's vigorous schedule.
     
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    I'm waiting for the first player to forgo their senior season of high school to play overseas to come out for the NBA draft at 18.

    This is dumb though. You're going to have to start paying the college athletes if you are going to force them to stay this long.
     
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    They're getting free education to play basketball, I have to pay 10k a year to go to college, so they can't start that argument.
     
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    The flipside to the argument, to me, is look at the superstars of the league today... Most of them are either straight from HS (Kobe, LeBron, Garnett, McGrady, etc.) or only played a year or two of college ball. The 3-4 year college guy (i.e. Duncan, Roy) is a rarity among top level players.

    Should the people that are ready to make the jump be punished on behalf of those that aren't?
     
  11. Nate Dogg

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    Yes, K.Smith mentioned that to as well about those players (KG, Kobe, etc). Those guys are like a penny in a haystack every few drafts. Perhaps the NBA union and stern should come out with a new rookie clause contract for players that think they should belong in the league this early.
     
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    For every KG, there is a Robert Swift.
     
  13. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    They should allow only one person per draft to come straight out of high school or with one year of college. If you enter the draft and aren't the first high schooler/college freshman picked, you have to wait until you are two years removed from high school.

    Call it the LeBron James rule, because if you are a can't miss stud like LeBron, why in hell would the NBA want to make fans wait for you? But if you are a Travis Outlaw and need a few years of seasoning, you go to college or overseas.
     
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    there have been even more busts who have gone to college for 2+ years.
     
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    that's not true and even if it was, having one star for every one bust would be way better than the star to bust ratio for players going to college.
     
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    one isn't enough. just think about lebron's year. carmelo would be forced to stay in school for an extra year. why? or last year with rose, mayo, love, beasley, and gordon contributing immediately. i'd say at least put the limit at 5 players per year if it includes both first year guys and high school guys. if it's just high school putting the limit at 3 might be enough to get all of the nba ready talent per year.

    but what they really should do is just get rid of the rule all together. players should be able to enter the draft out of high school. gms just have to be smart enough to stay away from the bad players. no reason to protect bad gms from themselves.
     
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    I don't think they would be able to legally put a limit on hour many can enter/be drafted w/o having legal issues. I like the rule now rather than having guys that can't get academically eligible entering the draft ala Ricky Sanchez. The rule wasn't intended for protecting GM's but to force the players go to college and help their development not only as a basketball player, but to let their mind & body grow.
     
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    that's bullshit. the rule was made because gms couldn't stop themselves from wasting good picks on shitty players because they'd fall in love with their "potential".

    players don't develop better in college than they do in the nba. they have much more time playing basketball and being coached when they are actually pros than when they are in college and have all kinds of restrictions on things.
     
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    Da_O Abe Vigoda lives!

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    The argument of whether they shouldn't be forced another year because they should be able to choose is ridiculous. The NBA will decide. The players have no say in it. The discussion is, is it worth it to withhold these kids for one more year. I absolutely, disagree that it would.

    One year is ample enough time to see if a kid is ready to play in the NBA. The only way to get better is to play with better competition(i.e. the NBA). All the supposed "fundamentals" you can learn in college, you can also learn in the pro's. Since the one and done deal has been in place, prospects that were once considered top 5 picks, some are falling into the later rounds. Guys like Donte Green, DeAndre Jordan, and even BJ Mullens. That one year allowed scouts to determine that these kids weren't NBA ready when instead they would have for sure gone lottery had they came out of high school, and some poor, unexpecting NBA team would have gotten robbed.

    One year is enough.
     
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    what is ridiculous is that people feel the nba is correct in not allowing people to come straight from high school and that people even support adding a 2nd year. it's crazy.

    if some poor, unexpecting nba team takes a shitty player, that's there fault. no one forced them to do it. it doesn't matter if the guy is a college senior or straight from high school. teams have enough time to scout those players in high school and do scout them in high school. if they don't trust their scouts, then they probably need to find some new ones.

    the argument that players who go to college are better than ones who go straight from high school is just ridiculous. try reading this article: http://www.realgm.com/src_feature_article/165/20080409/a_76_percent_success_rate_not_enough/
     

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