The Freedom Tower is no more.

What's the third option?

Incidentally, I'm not sure if the current "war" on them counts as taunting or inviting to dinner, but I'm pretty sure it's one of the two, or both.

 

It was used as the drum that was beat to get us into Iraq, pass the Patriot Act, and commit other assaults on our constitution. 9-11, 9-11, 9-11....how many times did we hear Bush repeat this in all his speeches.

Give up your civil liberties, because there are boogie men out to get you, that we need to protect you from. That's what 9-11 was all about, manipulation.

 

And putting the World Trade Center up just like it was would have been a great way to show our resolve against our enemies . . .

 

It's a hell of a lot smarter than trying to accomodate them.

 

Actually, 9/11 was about the murder of thousands of innocent people, several of whom were my friends.

 

Is there a long line of businesses eager to set up in the new building? I'd think that even gung-ho conservative business owners would have problems attracting employees who are willing to work at the site.

Who really wants aboard "Titanic 2: The REALLY Unsinkable Ship"?

I could be wrong, though. I hate tall buildings anyway. Just kind of creepy.

I think they shoulda just left it as a park. It's expensive real estate, I realize, but then a block of Central Park ain't cheap either.

 

No disagreement there, thousands were murdered, and hundreds of thousands were murdered in Iraq. Human life is not important to those who planned the event. Power, manipulation and money is what they care about.

 

Okay, who in your mind planned the event?

 

I don't really know everyone specifically. There are some big time power-players behind the scenes that have a tremendous amount of power over world events. Two of these families are the Rockefellers and the Rothchilds, two very powerful banking families. Also, I'd have to say Cheney hand a hand in it since he ordered the stand down of Norad, and Bush as well, since he ordered the FBI to stay off Bin Laden's tail before 9-11. They definitely did not want an investigation of 9-11. Isn't it telling that it took the victims family members a tremendous amount of effort and publicity to even get the 9-11 commission formed? Isn't it suspicious that Bush and Cheany would not testify under oath to the 9-11 commission, they could not be recorded, and they had to meet together.....talk about GUILTY!


Check out this interview of Aaron Russo. He's a former film producer who got into politics. I think he ran for president for the constitution party a few years ago. Anyway, he became a friend of Nick Rockefeller, and you can listen to what he says about that:
[video=youtube;7nD7dbkkBIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA[/video]

 

By the way, you might be one to snicker at Aaron's opening statements, but you might want to read this first:

Here is the direct quote from David Rockefeller's book "Memoirs" pg. 405

For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it. -David Rockefeller


Ok, here is is admitting it plainly in his book. This is substantianted by similar statements by any others, and by Professor Carol Quigley who was paid by the CFR to write a book about the CFR.

 

You really don't understand how friendship works do you?

 

I don't think a one world government is a good idea. For one thing, we in the US have more freedom under our constitution than most other nations. Obliterating our constitution and joining the rest of the world, I feel would only bring us down.

The UN is a good example of the kinds of problems you'd have with a one world government. The Islamic extremists want to outlaw saying anything bad against Islam. Too many incompatible cultures. And is the purpose of creating a one world government to create a world of peace and harmony? That's a dream. These guys have no regard for human life. They bankrupt countries intentionally just so they can buy up their resources and pennies on the dollar.

Besides, you selectively ignored part of the charge he pleaded guilty to, being part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States. I know a one world government sounds fine and dandy to some, but just remember that there indeed are powerful people pushing to move America into a one world government, and bankrupting our nation may be apart of that plan.

Anyway, this is digressing from the main topic, which is 9-11. I posted that just to prove that what Aaron is saying initially is not off base, because some who are ignorant to the facts would snicker at that as being "paranoid".

 

Our government could be great if the people in control actually wanted to do what is good for the people, and the world. Right now, our government sucks, but our system of government, and our constitution are the best ever devised.

I used it illustrate the kinds of problems a one world government would face. But Representatives of different nations getting together to debate and vote on issues is actually very similar to how most parliaments have worked since the days of ancient Greece.


This topic is really too big and complicated for a message board discussion. If you are really interested in this, get a copy of Dr. Carol Quigley's book Tragedy and Hope. It's one of the most intensive and in depth looks a political motivation and power of the 20th century. It was not written as a "conspiracy theory" He was was a member of the CFR, and they gave him access to all of their documents and asked him to write this book. He too, was not against a one world government, controlled by bankers, he thought it was a good thing. Bill Clinton referred to Dr. Quigley in his auto biography, about what a big influence he was on his life...so this guy isn't just some academic, he knows his shit.

Check out this segment form it.

Such stealthy underhanded tactics have always been the means to an end, including but not limited to the eradication of the sovereignty of independent nations in order to achieve their ultimate goal of establishing a one world government, transcending from the inception of The Rhodes Secret Society to The Round Table Group in Great Britain to Royal Institute for International Affairs (RIIA), and the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR). Tragedy and Hope took Dr. Quigley over twenty years of researching the coveted archives of Cecil Rhodes secret society. Dr. Quigley dedicated his career “to training undergraduates in techniques of historical analysis which will help them to free their understanding of history from the accepted categories and cognitive classifications of the society in which we live, since these, however necessary they…nevertheless do often serve as barriers which shield us from recognition of the underlying realities themselves (Tragedy and Hope: ix).”

 

Oh, are you sure they are going to fail? Ever heard of the North American Union? Maybe they are very patient, taking small steps at a time. If they got up and announced the end of America, all the little froggies would JUMP, but if you turn up the heat really slowly, in increments. Also, people can be put under the illusion that they are in control. This last election for example, was mainly about ending the war, so we bring in Obama and the democrats, and now they're saying will be in Iraq till 2012. Round-table groups such as Bilderburg, Tri-lateral commission, CFR, and the central banks are the ones really running the country. And the guys running these groups say flat out they want one world government. They want to control everything, and take away your freedom.

I hope they do fail, but it's obvious to me that these same people are still in power and doing dirty deeds, to accomplish goals that do not have the well-being of other humans in mind. If people did suddenly realize what they were doing, they would not stand a chance, their asses would be in jail. So they still have some degree of fear over us, which is why they need to stage events to manipulate public opinion.

I think Kennedy was our last good president. He saw how the unelected establishment, the "military industrial complex" as Dwight D. Eisenhower called it, and the central banks were doing to the country, and had plans to take them out. That's why he got his head blown off.

 

Good questions, they have their hands up the politicians asses. They staged 9-11 in order to get legislation like the Patriot act passed, which took away several of our constitutional liberties. They justified the illegal warrentless spying in the name of protecting us from the very terrorism that they stage.

It's called problem, reaction, solution. It's the way these boys operate.

The fact is, they could charge you with terrorism and send your ass a way to a secret CIA base in Estonia and have you tortured, no judge, no jury, not even a phone call. And Obama is protecting this policy.

Many citizens are outraged by this, but others don't care because it hasn't affected them yet. See, this proves how they are turning up the heat gradually, getting people used to it.

You know the investigative journalist, Greg Palast, he was taking photos and documenting of how FEMA was handling the disaster. This is a journalist who had exposed a lot of the fraud that Bush did mind you, and the Department of Homeland security brought him up on charges of TERRORISM for photographing public infastructure.

See, do something you don't like, you're a TERRORIST. This war or terrorism is bullshit, they trumped it up so they can use it do take away our freedom and treat us like slaves.