In Retrospect, If The Trade Deadline Were Tomorrow..

This is a very cogent argument - IF you assume that Bayless' ego/feelings are more important than the team.

Heck, I *like* Bayless...but at the point he stands in the way of the team succeeding...."F" him and the Sundevil he rode in on!

 

Miller gets those numbers on bad teams. You have to discount the numbers because of that.

 

Outlaw is our third scorer and he's been very effective as that.

 

PER has nothing to do with how good or bad the team is. It is a measure of individual effeciency...period. That is precisely why some people are critical of it. They jump to the conclusion that if a team is struggling, all 12 players on that team must suck.

Basketball is a team sport. Even the worst teams can have 1 or 2 good players.

 

And I'm fine with us standing pat. I got a little excited about the Carter deal but if it was my choice back in February, I wouldn't have made a deal and I don't regret KPs decision now.

 

No, you don't. That's certainly one way people try to reach the conclusion they want to about players they don't like, though.

This argument makes even less sense when talking about a pass-first point guard. Having bad teammates padded his assist totals? Sure. if anything, you have to upgrade his numbers...he had (arguably) poor teammates and still managed to help them score baskets, thus generating assists.

 

Baloney. PER certainly is impacted by the players you play with.

 

If you're the only player on your team that can dish the ball you're going to have higher assist totals. Simple as that.

 

Simple, but extremely unconvincing. If that were true, there would be lots of point guards who put up the numbers Miller does, and there aren't.

 

Hey, he's got talent. I'm not saying he sucks. But the fact of the matter is that your assists totals would be impacted in a situation like that. All you need is some finishers and he's got some on Philly in Iggy, etc. Blake doesn't get those kind of assist totals because B-Roy is the distributor for much of the time here.

 

Bake it!

 

Hard to imagine that we would have had a much better record than we do now, no matter who he could have brought in.

Once again, in KP we trust.

 

It wouldn't need to be "much" better. Right now, 1 more win would have us ahead of Houston and SA, instead of a 3 way tie. 3 more wins might have meant the divisional title.

 

If KP thinks he has a realistic chance of getting an upgrade at PG this summer, and any pre-deadline trade would have eliminated that chance, or made it less likely; then I'm OK with no trade.

 

So Andre Iguodala averaging 5.2 assists per game is different from B-Roy's 5.2 assists per game how?

Taken from Hollinger's analysis of Miller at espn.com http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=557

Sounds like a the description of a pretty talented player to me?

I'm not saying get Miller at all costs, but I wouldn't bat an eye if KP offered him a MLE+ deal for 2 or 3 years; it's a risk at his age, but his game has never been predicated on lighting quick speed and he could be the perfect 'bridge' player while Bayless (I guess?) grows into the role when Andre is winding down.

 

If the trade deadline were tomorrow, I wouldn't make a trade, too close to the end of the season.

I was willing to make a trade at the trade deadline, but only if we could find a player that wouldn't be keeping Batum and Webster on the bench for four or five years, would be a good mix with our team, would give us something we needed and wouldn't cost more than Raef, Outlaw, Randolph and Diogu/Ruffin, and draft picks. I wasn't sure that there was a trade that would meet all of those requirements available to us. I'm quite satisfied with the way things have turned out and the development of Batum.

 

I think Wallace or Butler would be good value for Batum. I seriously think people overvalue Batum, like they did Sergio last year- yes, he could conceivably be another Pippen, but he could also never develop into as good a player as Wallace or Butler. Had we gotten either Wallace or Butler- our work of making a championship contender would have been essentially done- we'd have 3 young all-star or near all-star players with Oden yet to develop.

We wasted Raef's contract.

Another thing to keep in mind is that we could have kept both Blake and Outlaw, had we traded for Wallace...and have still had the mid level exception available to sign a point guard had we wanted to.

 

Butler >>> Wallace and Butler has a better contract at this point.

Comparing them invalidates your entire post IMO.

 

Or, chemistry fails and the team ends up in the 8th spot.

I'd take any match-up in the first round outside of LA right now.