J.R. Smith Is A Fearless Beast!

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  1. STOMP

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    how about instead you provide one single quote of a current or former coach of his blasting him, after all you're the one claiming he strikes fear in them. Otherwise you've got nothing but the same tired pots shots. I can provide tons of quotes those former coaches of his lavishing praise on him... hell, his current GM is on record saying he has all the makings of a great coach himself.

    If you enjoy still enjoy this rut, PM you know who and have at it in private, but the rest of us have moved on.

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    I like have a player or two without a conscience, especially wing players. If they aren't on for a particular night coach can yank them and try someone else, but I believe in the power of the green light especially off the bench. A confident guy who can get his shot and is capable of filling it up is a powerful weapon.

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    I agree. I think Outlaw is a valuable player. As would JR Smith be.
     
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    You're kidding, right? :lol:

    Here's what was said:

    Here was my simple response:

    I'd say it was a factual example. No more, no less.

    Then, you took it to another level....going on about how Rasheed had been to the playoffs umpteen years straight. I, then, simply asked you if you thought that would have happened had he stayed with the Hawks. Easy enough of a question.....the point of that being that Rasheed has been "blessed" to be on good to very good teams. Again, no more, no less. Good for him.

    That said, though, trust me, I've moved on.....I've moved on. :pimp:
     
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    right... but you've not moved on enough to let this tired crap alone. What carries more weight, actions or words? Many here think RW was a Blazer great and appreciated the winning days of that era. If you've moved on, why not act like it and not bring up this tired back and forth for the umpteenth time? What is it?

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  6. ABM

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    Dude, he was purely an example I brought up as someone who was talented, yet had difficulties with coaches. Totally on-topic with what had been said, above. I didn't trot-out Wallace's name arbitrarily.


    OK, OK, you wanted an example..I did a brief - again, brief - search and did come up with this...

    http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-blog/d...eed-wallace-on-the-trading-block-ar43964.html
     
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    Saunders leaves, Wallace stays, Detroit now stinks.

    Coincidence?
     
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    Except JR Smith is now better than Outlaw. And he has range that extends out well past the three point line. JR Smith spreads the floor about as well as anyone in the NBA. Very valuable.
     
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    no I wanted (and asked) for a quote from a coach... we've had the Canzano's speculating for years but the principles tell a different story.

    it seems you've got nothing

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    Of course I've got nothing, What coach in their right mind is gonna call out his own player to the media?? Yeesh, so much for giving an example of someone so near and dear to your heart. :lol:

    It's all good, though, STOMP. As David Lee Roth once said, it's all water under the dam.. :cheers:
     
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    Phil Jackson. Jerry Sloan. George Karl.
     
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    They never had Rasheed Wallace on their team.
     
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    Phil Jackson has called out Kobe, Shaq, Rodman, Pippen, Rider...hell, is there anybody he hasn't thrown under the bus? (Including Bus.)

    What coach hasn't at some point publicly bitched about Iverson or Bonzi or Marbury or Rider?

    If I were coaching Sheed and I had a problem with him, I doubt I'd go to the media. Mostly because Sheed has "circle of trust" issues (aka, Robert DeNiro in Meet The Parents).

    But it's not like it's a coaching no-no to publicly call out a player to the media. Coaches have so little actual power that it can be a way to at least cover your ass, if not actually improve a situation with a player.
     
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    OK! OK! I freakin' stand corrected! :lol:

    All I was really trying to say, though, is that, like J.R. Smith, Rasheed is a tremendous talent...who can also drive his coach(es) a bit nuts at times. I mean, really, is there any real argument there? It wasn't necessarily a dig at Rasheed as much as it was simply stating a truism within the context of this thread.
     
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    actually Phil has said that he fears Sheed because of what he can do to bust up the Laker zone D.

    Larry Brown feared Wallace so much that after consulting with his brother Herb (who was a Blazer assistant coach before moving on to the Pistons), he urged management to trade for him... and then he won a championship.

    but what do HOF coaches know?

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    That has nothing to do with those coaches not calling out Rasheed in the media, which was my point.
     
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    my point was that fans projecting their speculations as fact should expect to be called on it, and that this same tired discussion has been had so many times it's obnoxious to bring it up yet again.

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    thanks for proving you're too blinded by hate to be rational :lol:
    super awesome having this chat with you buddy :cheers:

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    Sweet fancy Moses... who's guarding him?

    Rashad McCants?

    Here's a little hint to the Kings, maybe make him drive once. Just a thought. Oh, but I forgot they are a fledgling team of lazy basketball players without pride.
     

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