Planning On Going To The Tax Day Tea Party?

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  1. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    It's possible to oppose for what President Obama stands. In fact, those that oppose him are closer to our Nation's Founders than those that support him. Those folks are closer to Jean Monnet.

    And it's true. I find you to be among the most hateful and intolerant posters on this board.
     
  2. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Not just his passion. His ideas are centuries old, but just as true. One needs to think about the values they hold highest. For me, they are freedom and liberty.
     
  3. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I'd concur with that. Oh, and justice, too. :)
     
  4. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    This is where it gets hard. I like Justice too, but I put it beneath Liberty.
     
  5. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Interesting. In your mind, where does liberty transcend justice?
     
  6. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Tomorrow be it, correct?
     
  7. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    The "party" across from the Bend Library on City property was a total flop here in Beautiful Central Oregon today.

    Maybe 30-40 people showed up, strangely enough about half of them were bikers, the rest looked like WalMart shoppers for want of a better description.

    Although they were all bitching about something or other, nobody seemed to be bitching about anything in particular or even the same thing as the guy next to him.

    It broke up fairly quickly once the bikers realized there was no keg. :sigh:
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    I'm guessing wherever it affects his pocketbook.
     
  9. BalancedMan

    BalancedMan That's out of context....

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    Really? Rasmussen? You know that's a fucking Republican bias there. Whenever they have an election poll it seems to favor a Republican about 5 points more than it turns out.

    In any case, I have no problem with some form of socialism, but the problem is that it isn't feasible for the United States. We're too large, have too many immigrants, and too many bottom feeders. Denmark, where I lived for 5 months, is probably the epitome of socialism. It's a really nice place. No one is "that" poor...but on the flip side you don't have many billionaire's either. I understand the criticism that people want to make as much as they can, but heart strings tug at me too. Both sides make sense to me. I don't like to see people suffer. But I also realize that education and committing your life to a profession are expensive (financially and time wise) and people need to be rewarded as such.

    In any case, socialism can't work in the US Federally. A better idea is to let the individual states run their version of "socialism" (or anti-socialism, whatever they want). The Federal government is too big, and I saw that as someone who votes democrat probably 80% of the time.

    I also now share a desk with a state employee, and he does nothing. I was told that what I did today in 3 hours (in my first full week on the job) would have taken him more than a full week to do. Ridiculous. Government could be more innovative and efficient. That's the reform that's needed. It'd be nice if working for the government drew the best talent from schools, paid competitively, and was considered a "top-tier" career as opposed to a place for the lazy and complacent people. But it's just so hard to change the culture. You can make changes at the top, like a President (Obama) or GM (Pritchard), but you have to get rid of the players (government employees) and get them to buy into the system (a lean, hardworking organization)...neither of which seem very likely. It's a dream...unfortunately it stops about there.

    As for the tax tea party, there was a big rally outside the state capitol in Colorado. Some of my conservative and libertarian co-workers went today. As someone who will pay a pretty high tax rate next year, I understand. but I don't know what can realistically be done about it.

    :-(
     
  10. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Why is all the bailout money going to the friends of the treasury secretary?

    For reference:

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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    More reference:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-04-14-biggovernment_N.htm

    Although an expansive federal government hasn't had a defender in the White House for nearly a half-century — since Lyndon Johnson and his Great Society program — most Americans in a nationwide USA TODAY/Gallup Poll approve of President Obama and the government's latest assertiveness. However, some of the steps he has ordered have made them wary.


    By 3-to-1, those surveyed say government's expansion should be cut back when the economic crisis is over.

    Comfortable with Big Government 37%
    Only while we have to 15%
    Not sure 27%
    Not on our dime 21%

    Source: Analysis by Jim Norman of USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of 1,007 adults taken March 27-29. Reported by Susan Page, USA TODAY.
     
  12. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    You're just like Roger Maris, but without the home runs. Instead, it's just a lot of strikeouts.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    When Justice for an individual comes at the expense of Liberty for the society at large.
     
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    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

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    overall, lame. I hate protesters in general because they fuck traffic up and are usually pretty tame.

    same with the anti-war fucks. or anti-globalism nerdz. tea party people = teh lame.

    if you want to protest, do it like they do in Europe. Be hardcore as fuck and don't just hold signs up. set shit on fiyuah!
     

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